Ian, Through tomorrow PM, I'm traveling without a Bluetooth equipped laptop. But if your Device can be "seen", settting it up should merely be a Permissions issue. When I get home, I'll be able to run some tests. Marvin On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Ian Smith <ismith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Marvin, > > Many thanks for your ongoing help. > > The modem is built into the laptop, so I doubt I can change that. > > I do however (and my preferred route) is via a Bluetooth modem, which I > can "see" but cannot seem to communicate with - is any of the debugging > we have done relevant to that? Or is there someone you can recommend who > may be able to help? The modem is a Trust 14019 Bluetooth 56K Modem, and > I use a Newlink NLUSBBT-100 Bluetooth dongle. > > Many thanks for all your help. > > Kind Regards, > > > Ian > > > > On 08/09/11 23:02, Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >> We can conclude that actual modem activation is the problem. >> Unfortunately, since there is a large Closed Source component, >> the usual Linux troubleshooting tools cannot be applied. >> >> Later when I'm under Linux, I'll send you a procedure to test. >> But I'm not very hopeful. >> The simplest route would be to shop for a Controller Chipset modem, >> as constrasted to a winmodem. >> >> MarvS >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Ian Smith <ismith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Marvin, >>> >>> I tried again, and I thought it had worked - after the wvdialconf >>> command, I had a list of S1 .... and on the same line the command line >>> prompt - but I could use the mouse, and clicked in another window. I >>> went back to the terminal window, pressed <RETURN>, and the screen froze >>> again. I waited maybe 30seconds before switching the laptop off. >>> >>> Is there anything else to try? >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On 31/08/11 16:06, Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >>>> Ian, >>>> >>>> RE: am I supposed to be doing something at the moment? >>>> Following Jacques suggestion: >>>> re: >>>> Once only, sudo ln -sf /dev/ttyAGS3 /dev/ttyS16 >>>>>>>> S16 exists and is never used, so choose S16 and link with a force (the f >>>>>>>> in -sf) to override its current definition >>>>>>>> Try wvdialconf again to see if before hanging (or not) it will find your >>>>>>>> modem as /dev/ttyS16 or not. >>>> ==== >>>> >>>> The test we would like your to do is: >>>> $ sudo ./unloading >>>> $ sudo modprobe agrserial >>>> to load the drivers. >>>> $ sudo ln -sf /dev/ttyAGS3 /dev/ttyS16 >>>> so that wvdialconf will follow /dev/ttyS16 --> /dev/ttyAGS3 , the real port. >>>> Then once more >>>> $ sudo wvdialconf wvtest.txt >>>> >>>> The possibility Jacques raises is that something other than the query >>>> to /dev/ttyAGS3 >>>> is causing your System to hang. If it still hangs under this test, we >>>> know modem is indeed the culprit. >>>> >>>> MarvS >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ian Smith <ismith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Jacques, >>>>> >>>>> My apologies, but am I supposed to be doing something at the moment? I >>>>> would hate to think through my oversight I am causing a delay! >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>>> >>>>> On 29/08/11 16:50, Jacques Goldberg wrote: >>>>>> Thanks Marv for the clarification. >>>>>> Please look at this relevant section circa lines 485 ssq of file >>>>>> wvmodemscan.cc in wvdial 1.61: >>>>>> static int fileselect(const struct dirent *e) >>>>>> { >>>>>> return !strncmp(e->d_name, "ttyS", 4) // serial >>>>>> || !strncmp(e->d_name, "ttyLT", 5) // Lucent WinModem >>>>>> || !strncmp(e->d_name, "ttyACM", 6) // USB acm Modems >>>>>> || !strncmp(e->d_name, "ttyUSB", 6) // Modems on USB RS232 >>>>>> || !strncmp(e->d_name, "ircomm", 6) // Handys over IrDA >>>>>> || !strncmp(e->d_name, "ttySL", 5); // SmartLink WinModem >>>>>> >>>>>> // (no internal ISDN support) || !strncmp(e->d_name, "ttyI", 4); >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> ttyS is the first accepted pattern. >>>>>> My suspicion about the need in this version for the end of ttyS to be >>>>>> completed with digits, hence the suggestion to try S16, comes from the >>>>>> fifth pattern with ttySL. Who needs it if ttyS followed by letter L is >>>>>> treated with the first pattern? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/29/2011 05:13 PM, Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >>>>>>> Just to clarify issues >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) loading agrmodem is typically trouble free >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) loading agrserial dynamically creates /dev/ttyAGS3 (so terribly >>>>>>> named by Agere) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) the scripts provided by my agrsm-tools package >>>>>>> a) preload agrmodem, upon >>>>>>> $ sudo modprobe agrserial >>>>>>> b) create the /dev/ttySAGR --> /dev/ttyAGS3 symbolic link, for later >>>>>>> use in the wvdialconf test. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is when modem port usage is actually begun, for example by >>>>>>> wvdialconf, that some systems have a conflict. This seems to be >>>>>>> happening on Ian's system, >>>>>>> as all the /dev/ttySn (n a number) are first queried. /dev/ttySAGR >>>>>>> would be next in line, >>>>>>> and than is when the hang seems to occur. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Certain doing Jacques suggested test with the /devttyS16 --> >>>>>>> /dev/ttyAGS3 symbolic link is worthwhile, though I expect this is >>>>>>> Resource Conflict case that is difficult to resolve, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MarvS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Jacques Goldberg >>>>>>> <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> Ian, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am getting old. I just suddenly remember that I got mad, long ago, trying >>>>>>>> to help somebody, with wvdialconf hanging up on my own computer with no >>>>>>>> modem installed. I got rid of the problem using an older version of >>>>>>>> wvdialconf. The difference was that the older would only scan /dev/ttyS* >>>>>>>> addresses while the newer one also looked for USB, ACM, ISDN and perhaps >>>>>>>> other devices. >>>>>>>> Remembering that, I just downloaded the source code for wvdialconf. >>>>>>>> Analyzing it I already have three trivial questions to ask you, please >>>>>>>> forgive me for such stupid questions: >>>>>>>> 1-Which version are you using? The command wvdialconf --version >>>>>>>> gives the answer >>>>>>>> 2-When the computer hangs, just where you at least tried to give a carriage >>>>>>>> return, have you tried to give CTRL C (that is hit C while holding down >>>>>>>> the CTRL key)? >>>>>>>> 3-This one comes from an other user: have you tried to wait, doing nothing >>>>>>>> after having started wvdialconf , for at least one timed minute, a feeling >>>>>>>> of the time elapsed is not enough, just to make sure that it does not come >>>>>>>> back to life without intervention? That user had observed that the additions >>>>>>>> beyond the basic /dev/ttyS* pattern cause wvdialconf to silently work for >>>>>>>> quite a bit of time before reporting null results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >From the photo there is something puzzling. It shows a device named >>>>>>>> /dev/ttyAGS3 (yellow), probably created when loading the driver, linked to >>>>>>>> an object /dev/ttySAGR for the obvious and unique purpose of respecting the >>>>>>>> old convention of naming serial ports according to >>>>>>>> /dev/ttyS<something> . If my hint that wvdialconf hangs AFTER having >>>>>>>> completed scanning for /dev/ttyS* , and therefore having failed to find >>>>>>>> /dev/ttySAGR, I can see at least two reasons: the driver does not correctly >>>>>>>> create /dev/ttyAGS3 , or, the version of wvdialconf which you use insists >>>>>>>> that /dev/ttyS<something> requires a number withing some range for >>>>>>>> <something>. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Elder readers who remember the early days of the Lucent driver LTMODEM >>>>>>>> from which is some way your driver is derived will understand why in your >>>>>>>> place I would give this a try: >>>>>>>> Once only, sudo ln -sf /dev/ttyAGS3 /dev/ttyS16 >>>>>>>> S16 exists and is never used, so choose S16 and link with a force (the f >>>>>>>> in -sf) to override its current definition >>>>>>>> Try wvdialconf again to see if before hanging (or not) it will find your >>>>>>>> modem as /dev/ttyS16 or not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/29/2011 11:35 AM, Ian Smith wrote >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marvin, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Up to the wvdialconf command, the text below was from the console - >>>>>>>> after the wvdialconf command, the laptop froze - and I hav >>>>>>>> >