Simone, The Init1 line should not have X3, but rather the reset. Init1 = ATZX3 is adequately contained in the Init2 line In this testing phase, I would advise disabling sl-modem-daemon by$ sudo gedit /etc/default/sl-modem-daemonto changeDONTSTART=1and save Then stop the active session with:$ sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon stopor reboot, upon which slmodemd will not be automatically set You can setup the modem manually with:$ sudo slmodemd -c USA --alsa hw:0,6I'm not confident that sl-modem-daemon always get the hw:0,Ndecision correct, and that might be your problem.If hw:0,0 or hw:0,1 were chosen, this would explain the looping Leaving slmodemd runningOpen a 2nd console to do your dialout with:$ sudo wvdial REport back. MarvSscanModem maintainer On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Antonio Olivares<olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> gcc4.2 or gcc4.3?>> If you have 4.2 you need gcc 4.3. Otherwise check with Jacques'> post-install.html>> Regards,>> Antonio>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Simone Veronese <jonlord84@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>> Antonio,>>>> all that has failed... The version of my SLMODEMD is 2.9.11.>>>> Thanks,>> Simone.>>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:07:51 -0600>>> From: olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx>>> To: jonlord84@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> Subject: Re: Motorola Si3054 - No Carrier Error>>> CC: discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>> Simone,>>>>>> You also appear to have eth0 activated?>>>>>> Nov 26 12:34:23 **** kernel: [ 32.343629] bridge-eth0: already up>>>>>> Try to close eth0 down, and then try dialout>>>>>> $ sudo ifconfig eth0 down>>>>>> Otherwise, if all that fails, which version of SLMODEMD do you have?>>>>>> Regards,>>>>>> Antonio>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Simone Veronese wrote:>>>>>>>> Antonio,>>>> the wvdial.out wich I sent to you is bad because I forgot to insert X3 in Init2.>>>> I've tried again (with X3 in Init2) but nothing changed...>>>>>>>> Simone>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:29:52 -0600>>>>> From: olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> To: jonlord84@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>> Subject: Re: Motorola Si3054 - No Carrier Error>>>>> CC: discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>>> Simeone,>>>>>>>>>> Could you modify the wvdial.conf file>>>>> from>>>>>>>>>> [Dialer Defaults]>>>>> Init1 = ATX3>>>>> Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 +MS=90>>>>> Stupid Mode = on>>>>> Modem Type = Analog Modem>>>>> ISDN = 0>>>>> New PPPD = on>>>>> Phone = 7020187187>>>>> Modem = /dev/ttySL0>>>>> Username = telecom>>>>> Password = telecom>>>>> Baud = 460800>>>>> Carrier Check = off>>>>>>>>>> To>>>>>>>>>> [Dialer Defaults]>>>>> Init1 = ATX3>>>>> Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 X3 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 +MS=34>>>>> Init3 = ATX3 <=== add this to check if it works>>>>> Stupid Mode = yes <=== change on to yes>>>>> Modem Type = Analog Modem>>>>> ISDN = 0>>>>> New PPPD = on>>>>> Phone = 7020187187>>>>> Modem = /dev/ttySL0>>>>> Username = telecom>>>>> Password = telecom>>>>> Baud = 115200 <=== change this from 460800>>>>> Carrier Check = no>>>>>>>>>> Also take a look here, if you have not done so:>>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-seventh/msg03119.html>>>>>>>>>> If all else fails, please try to do the following, with the exception>>>>> that you put *** in place of password and/or username to prevent>>>>> abuse. Also please make a log file and attach it to next mail in case>>>>> of failure>>>>>>>>>> ## To make a logfile wvdial.out>>>>>>>>>> # wvdial 2>&1 | tee wvdial.out>>>>> or>>>>> $ sudo wvdial 2>&1 | tee wvdial.out>>>>>>>>>> Attach it along with output of>>>>> $ sudo tail -f /var/log/messages>>>>>>>>>> HTH,>>>>>>>>>> Antonio>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Simone Veronese wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried but it's the same... :(>>>>>>>>>>>> Simone>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:57:40 -0600>>>>>>> From: olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>> To: jonlord84@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Motorola Si3054 - No Carrier Error>>>>>>> CC: discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simone,>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try Carrier Check = no>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carrier Check = no>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/wvdial.html>>>>>>> and>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/post-install.html>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Antonio>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Simone Veronese wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody,>>>>>>>> I'm trying to use my Motorola Si3054 modem on my laptop (HP Pavillion dv6599el) with Ubuntu 8.10>>>>>>>> (kernel version 2.6.27-8-generic).>>>>>>>> I suppose I have installed and configured correctly the sl-modem-daemon and sure enough>>>>>>>> wvdialconfig find the modem and create a symbolic link between /dev/pts/0 (or '1' or '2') and>>>>>>>> /dev/ttySL0 (I also manually create another simbolic link between /dev/ttySL0 and /dev/modem).>>>>>>>> The problem is that when I try to run wvdial the modem doesn't work, I always get this message:>>>>>>>> NO CARRIER>>>>>>>> No Carrier! Try Again>>>>>>>> The modem loops endlessly: it tries to dial the number of the provider but nothing happens!>>>>>>>> I've tried a lot of init string but nothing seems to change.>>>>>>>> The (not so) funny thing is that a few days ago the modem worked for one hour and then suddenly>>>>>>>> stopped (I'm sure I haven't changed a setting) and it also worked just 10 minutes ago and>>>>>>>> then stopped again.>>>>>>>> I have another problem: neither kppp nor gnome-ppp can find the modem on /dev/ttySL0 (or>>>>>>>> /dev/modem).>>>>>>>> It very seems to work randomly... What should I do?>>>>>>>> Thanks,>>>>>>>> Simone.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following are my wvdial.conf and modemData.txt:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------- wvdial.conf ----------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Dialer Defaults]>>>>>>>> Init1 = ATX3>>>>>>>> Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 +MS=90>>>>>>>> Stupid Mode = on>>>>>>>> Modem Type = Analog Modem>>>>>>>> ISDN = 0>>>>>>>> New PPPD = on>>>>>>>> Phone = 7020187187>>>>>>>> Modem = /dev/ttySL0>>>>>>>> Username = telecom>>>>>>>> Password = telecom>>>>>>>> Baud = 460800>>>>>>>> Carrier Check = off>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------- modemData.txt ---------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only plain text email is forwarded by the Discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx List Server,>>>>>>>> as HTML can contain viruses. Use as the email Subject Line:>>>>>>>> YourName, YourCountry kernel 2.6.27-8-generic>>>>>>>> With this Subject Line cogent experts will be alerted, and useful case names left in the Archive.>>>>>>>> YourCountry will enable Country specific guidance. Linux experts in YourCountry>>>>>>>> can be found through: http://www.linux.org/groups/index.html.>>>>>>>> They will know your Country's modem code, which may be essential for dialup service.>>>>>>>> Responses from Discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx are sometimes blocked by an Internet Provider mail filters.>>>>>>>> So in a day, also check the Archived responses at http://www.linmodems.org>>>>>>>> -------------------------- System information ---------------------------->>>>>>>> CPU=i686,>>>>>>>> Linux version 2.6.27-8-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu11) ) #1 SMP Thu Nov 6 17:33:54 UTC 2008>>>>>>>> scanModem update of: 2008_11_06>>>>>>>> The modem symbolic link is /dev/modem -> ttySL0>>>>>>>> There are no blacklisted modem drivers in /etc/modprobe* files>>>>>>>> Attached USB devices are:>>>>>>>> ID 04f2:b015 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub>>>>>>>> ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub>>>>>>>> ID 08ff:2580 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2501 Fingerprint Sensor>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub>>>>>>>> ID 045e:0084 Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub>>>>>>>> ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub>>>>>>>> USB modems not recognized>>>>>>>> For candidate card in slot 00:1b.0, firmware information and bootup diagnostics are:>>>>>>>> PCI slot PCI ID SubsystemID Name>>>>>>>> ---------- --------- --------- -------------->>>>>>>> 00:1b.0 8086:284b 103c:30cc Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H>>>>>>>> Modem interrupt assignment and sharing:>>>>>>>> 22: 383 373 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel>>>>>>>> --- Bootup diagnostics for card in PCI slot 00:1b.0 ---->>>>>>>> [ 0.516465] PCI: 0000:00:1b.0 reg 10 64bit mmio: [f8400000, f8403fff]>>>>>>>> [ 0.516523] pci 0000:00:1b.0: PME# supported from D0 D3hot D3cold>>>>>>>> [ 0.516528] pci 0000:00:1b.0: PME# disabled>>>>>>>> [ 17.072230] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22>>>>>>>> [ 17.072259] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64>>>>>>>> The PCI slot 00:1b.0 of the modem card may be disabled early in>>>>>>>> a bootup process, but then enabled later. If modem drivers load>>>>>>>> but the modem is not responsive, read DOCs/Bootup.txt about possible fixes.>>>>>>>> Send dmesg.txt along with ModemData.txt to discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>> if help is needed.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===== Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) diagnostics =====>>>>>>>> The ALSA packages provide audio support and also drivers for some modems.>>>>>>>> ALSA diagnostics are written during bootup to /proc/asound/ folders.>>>>>>>> The ALSA verion is 1.0.17>>>>>>>> The modem cards detected by "aplay -l" are:>>>>>>>> scheda 0: Intel [HDA Intel], dispositivo 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]>>>>>>>> The /proc/asound/pcm file reports:>>>>>>>> ----------------------->>>>>>>> 00-06: Si3054 Modem : Si3054 Modem : playback 1 : capture 1>>>>>>>> 00-00: ALC268 Analog : ALC268 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1>>>>>>>> about /proc/asound/cards:>>>>>>>> ------------------------>>>>>>>> 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel>>>>>>>> HDA Intel at 0xf8400000 irq 22>>>>>>>> PCI slot 00:1b.0 has a High Definition Audio Card>>>>>>>> The drivers are in the kernel modules tree at:>>>>>>>> /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko>>>>>>>> /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko>>>>>>>> /lib/modules/2.6.27-8-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko>>>>>>>> /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko>>>>>>>> The modem codec file for the HDA card is: /proc/asound/card0/codec#1>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>> Codec: Motorola Si3054>>>>>>>> Address: 1>>>>>>>> Vendor Id: 0x10573055>>>>>>>> Subsystem Id: 0x10573055>>>>>>>> Revision Id: 0x100700>>>>>>>> Modem Function Group: 0x1>>>>>>>> The audio card hosts a softmodem chip: 0x10573055>>>>>>>> The softmodem chip 0x10573055 is in principle supported by the COMM support of slmodemd>>>>>>>> and the joint snd-hda-intel audio+modem driver, begun with ALSA version 1.0.13.>>>>>>>> For HDA cards with ALC883 chips, an upgrade to ALSA verions 1.0.15 way be necessary. Instructions for Upgrading snd-hda-intel and its dependent driver set are at:>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg00838.html>>>>>>>> If not a Conexant modem, the driver snd-hda-intel with its dependent drivers:>>>>>>>> snd_hda_intel 381616 3>>>>>>>> snd_pcm 83204 6 snd_atiixp_modem,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss>>>>>>>> snd 63268 19 snd_atiixp_modem,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device>>>>>>>> snd_page_alloc 16136 5 snd_atiixp_modem,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_intel8x0m,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm>>>>>>>> ---------->>>>>>>> provide audio + modem support with the modem chip residing on the subsystem.>>>>>>>> Any particular card can host any one of several soft modem chips.>>>>>>>> === Finished firmware and bootup diagnostics, next deducing cogent software. ===>>>>>>>> Predictive diagnostics for card in bus 00:1b.0:>>>>>>>> Modem chipset detected on>>>>>>>> NAME="Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H ">>>>>>>> CLASS=0403>>>>>>>> PCIDEV=8086:284b>>>>>>>> SUBSYS=103c:30cc>>>>>>>> IRQ=22>>>>>>>> HDA=8086:284b>>>>>>>> SOFT=8086:284b.HDA>>>>>>>> CHIP=0x10573055>>>>>>>> IDENT=slmodemd>>>>>>>> SLMODEMD_DEVICE=hw:0,6>>>>>>>> Driver=snd-hda-intel>>>>>>>> For candidate modem in: 00:1b.0>>>>>>>> 0403 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H>>>>>>>> Primary device ID: 8086:284b>>>>>>>> Subsystem PCI_id 103c:30cc>>>>>>>> Softmodem codec or chipset from diagnostics: 0x10573055>>>>>>>> from Archives:>>>>>>>> The HDA card softmodem chip is 0x10573055>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Support type needed or chipset: slmodemd supporting the snd-hda-intel audio+modem driver>>>>>>>> An ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) modem driver: snd-hda-intel>>>>>>>> provides Low Level support enabling contact with the modem hardware.>>>>>>>> For all BUT Conexant chip soft modems (using hsfmodem software)>>>>>>>> complementary High Level support is through a Smartlink utility: slmodemd>>>>>>>> Download from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/>>>>>>>> the package SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz having a compiled slmodemd. Unpack under Linux with:>>>>>>>> $ tar zxf SLMODEMD.gcc4.3.tar.gz>>>>>>>> and read instructions therein. But briefly, the modem is setup with command:>>>>>>>> sudo slmodemd -c YOUR_COUNTRY --alsa hw:0,6>>>>>>>> reporting dynamic creation of ports:>>>>>>>> /dev/ttySL0 --> /dev/pts/N , with N some number>>>>>>>> Read DOCs/Smartlink.txt and Modem/DOCs/YourSystem.txt for follow through guidance.>>>>>>>> ----------------end Softmodem section -------------->>>>>>>> Writing DOCs/Intel.txt>>>>>>>> Writing DOCs/Smartlink.txt>>>>>>>> ============ end Smartlink section =====================>>>>>>>> Completed candidate modem analyses.>>>>>>>> The base of the UDEV device file system is: /dev/.udev>>>>>>>> Versions adequately match for the compiler installed: 4.3.2>>>>>>>> and the compiler used in kernel assembly: 4.3.2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minimal compiling resources appear complete:>>>>>>>> make utility - /usr/bin/make>>>>>>>> Compiler version 4.3>>>>>>>> linuc_headers base folder /lib/modules/2.6.27-8-generic/build>>>>>>>> However some compilations and executable functions may need additional files,>>>>>>>> in the FileNames.h (so called kernel "h"eaders) collection installed in /usr/include/ .>>>>>>>> For martian_modem, additional required packages are needed. The also required headers of package libc6 are commonly installed by default.>>>>>>>> Compiling hsfmodem drivers does require linux-libc-dev and libc6-dev packages, for kernels 2.6.24 and later versions.>>>>>>>> In not included on your install CD, search for them at http://packages.ubuntu.com>>>>>>>> or comparable Repository for other Linux distros.>>>>>>>> When compiling ALSA drivers, the utility "patch" will also be needed.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compressed files at: /usr/src/open-vm.tar.bz2 /usr/src/sl-modem.tar.bz2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a driver compilation fails, with message including some lack of some FileName.h (stdio.h for example), then>>>>>>>> Some additional kernel-header files need installation to /usr/include. The minimal additional packages are libc6-dev>>>>>>>> and any of its dependents, under Ubuntu linux-libc-dev>>>>>>>> If an alternate ethernet connection is available,>>>>>>>> $ apt-get update>>>>>>>> $ apt-get -s install linux-kernel-devel>>>>>>>> will install needed packages.>>>>>>>> For Debian/Ubuntu related distributions, run the following command to display the needed package list:>>>>>>>> Otherwise packages have to be found through http://packages.ubuntu.com>>>>>>>> Once downloaded and transferred into a Linux partition,>>>>>>>> they can be installed alltogether with:>>>>>>>> $ sudo dpkg -i *.deb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking pppd properties:>>>>>>>> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip 273064 2008-10-16 03:51 /usr/sbin/pppd>>>>>>>> In case of an "error 17" "serial loopback" problem, see:>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/linmodems/archive-sixth/msg02637.html>>>>>>>> To enable dialout without Root permission do:>>>>>>>> $ su - root (not for Ubuntu)>>>>>>>> sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/pppd>>>>>>>> or under Ubuntu related Linuxes>>>>>>>> sudo chmod a+x /usr/sbin/pppd>>>>>>>> Checking settings of: /etc/ppp/options>>>>>>>> asyncmap 0>>>>>>>> noauth>>>>>>>> crtscts>>>>>>>> lock>>>>>>>> hide-password>>>>>>>> modem>>>>>>>> proxyarp>>>>>>>> lcp-echo-interval 30>>>>>>>> lcp-echo-failure 4>>>>>>>> noipx>>>>>>>> In case of a message like:>>>>>>>> Warning: Could not modify /etc/ppp/pap-secrets: Permission denied>>>>>>>> see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-sixth/msg04656.html>>>>>>>> Read Modem/DOCs/YourSystem.txt concerning other COMM channels: eth0 vmnet1 vmnet8 vnet0 wlan0 wmaster0>>>>>>>> Which can interfere with Browser naviagation.>>>>>>>> Don't worry about the following, it is for experts should trouble shooting be necessary.>>>>>>>> ==========================================================>>>>>>>> # start/stop the daemon when the USB modem is connected>>>>>>>> KERNEL=="slusb[0-9]*", GROUP="dialout", RUN+="/etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon">>>>>>>> Checking for modem support lines:>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------->>>>>>>> /device/modem symbolic link: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2008-11-22 23:43 /dev/modem -> ttySL0>>>>>>>> slmodemd created symbolic link /dev/ttySL0:>>>>>>>> Within /etc/udev/ files:>>>>>>>> /etc/udev/rules.d/030_sl-modem-daemon.rules:# start/stop the daemon when the USB modem is connected>>>>>>>> /etc/udev/rules.d/030_sl-modem-daemon.rules:KERNEL=="slusb[0-9]*", GROUP="dialout", RUN+="/etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon">>>>>>>> /etc/udev/sl-modem-daemon.rules:# start/stop the daemon when the USB modem is connected>>>>>>>> /etc/udev/sl-modem-daemon.rules:KERNEL=="slusb[0-9]*", GROUP="dialout", RUN+="/etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon">>>>>>>> Within /etc/modprobe.conf files:>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/sl-modem-daemon.modutils:install slamr modprobe --ignore-install ungrab-winmodem ; modprobe --ignore-install slamr; test -e /dev/slamr0 || (/bin/mknod -m 660 /dev/slamr0 c 242 0 2>/dev/null && chgrp dialout /dev/slamr0)>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem:# Uncomment these entries in order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem:# blacklist snd-atiixp-modem>>>>>>>> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem:# blacklist snd-via82xx-modem>>>>>>>> Within any ancient /etc/devfs files:>>>>>>>> Within ancient kernel 2.4.n /etc/module.conf files:>>>>>>>> /etc/modules:ungrab_winmodem>>>>>>>> /etc/modules~:ungrab_winmodem>>>>>>>> --------- end modem support lines -------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________>>>>>>>> Fanne di tutti i colori, personalizza la tua Hotmail!>>>>>>>> http://imagine-windowslive.com/Hotmail/#0>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________>>>>>> Sei pronto per la sfida? 50 nuovi schemi per giocare su CrossWire!>>>>>> http://livesearch.games.msn.com/crosswire/play_it/>>>> _________________________________________________________________>>>> Foto, blog, amici… Crea e perosnalizza il tuo Spaces!>>>> http://home.services.spaces.live.com/>> _________________________________________________________________>> Foto, blog, amici… Crea e perosnalizza il tuo Spaces!>> http://home.services.spaces.live.com/>
