Re: Mic to Jacques

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Adding to Jacques good comments:
ppp is one of the protocols for connecting with other computers,most commonly  PPP server of your IP provider.
There are several mutually exclusive Front Ends for initiating a pppchannel, including wvdial, chatscripts, gppp, kppp, Kinternet etc.Each of these in turn eventually turn services over to deamon pppdonce the interchange with the IPs server is effective.
Once a ppp0 channel is stable, there are a number of COMM protocolswhich can be managed through it concurrently.  These include http,ftp, chat, update (software)  and others.  But they do NOT requiresetting up a second ppp channel.
In principle, if you had a 2nd modem and alternate phone line, onecould establish a 2nd channel which would be named ppp1.  But this isNOT necessary for multiple usages of the COMM protocols mentioned.
MarvS
On 9/29/07, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote:> Mic,> Again I am not sure that I understand your question.> To me at least, it seems like MArv and I have understood it very> differently, as he answers about using chat while you ask about> "multitasking" while wvdial (thus pppd) is running.>> 1-Is it clear to you that you must **NOT** interrupt wvdial. That is,> you should not "close the terminal" if terminal in your words means the> text window in which wvdial is running. If this is what you do, it stops> wvdial which in turn first closes pppd which in turn closes the> connection, and when all that has been done wvdial disappears from the> screen. CTRL-C is intended to stop wvdial when you do not need your> Internet connection any more. wvdial is just a convenient tool to start> pppd, the program which controls your Internet connection.>> 2-Would you please explain which command you want to use in> "multitasking" which does not work while wvdial ( -> pppd ) is> runnning? Have you ever typed the command> ps ax> to get an idea of how many multitasking modules are running?>> 3-Also, next time you write "the" terminal, can you please specify> which? You can have as many as you want, so it is not easy for the> reader to guess which one you have in mind.>> Best regards - Jacques>> mic wrote:> > Hi and thanks again, sorry to be a pest.> >> >     * I read your suggestions and followed them to a T from the beginning.> >     * The error came with my Username through the ISP.> >     * When I was logging on in the 6.06, I used my Username of "mikrose".> >     * When I was trying to log on with 7.04, I used the same Username.> >     * However, when my isp returned a technical response to my question> > about this problem, they told me I would have to use "mikrose@xxxxxxx",> > instead of "mikrose".  So that is what eventually worked.> >> >> > To follow up:  At this point, I can get on-line by entering "sudo> > wvdial" in a terminal window...with the results:> >> > mikrose@xxxxxxx> > Password:> > --> Looks like a password prompt.> > --> Sending: (password)> >     Entering PPP Session.> >     IP address is 4.240.186.204> >     MTU is 1500.> > --> Looks like a welcome message.> > --> Starting pppd at Fri Sep 28 08:10:34 2007> > --> Pid of pppd: 26766> > --> Using interface ppp0> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> local  IP address 4.240.186.204> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> remote IP address 63.215.26.191> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> primary   DNS address 209.244.0.3> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> > --> secondary DNS address 209.244.0.4> > --> pppd: �[08][06][08]�[10][06][08]> >> > It just stops like this, and then I am able close the terminal.  The> > connection will hold and I am able to do updates or use the internet,> > but any multi-tasking and it drops the connection.  I can use the "sudo> > wvdial" to get on again, but if I use "Network > Modem, configured with> > my same isp information, it drops the connection immediately.  In Help,> > I see the following on adjusting the ppp connection:> >> > │ Finished configuring connection and writing changed files.  The chat> >        │> > │ strings for connecting to the ISP are in /etc/chatscripts/isp, while> > the     │> > │ options for pppd are in /etc/ppp/peers/isp.  You may edit these files> > by     │> > │ hand if you wish.  You will now have an opportunity to exit the> > program,     │> > │ configure another connection, or revise this or another one.> >> > In "chatscripts" I see:> >> > # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.3.15.> > # Please do not delete any of the comments.  Pppconfig needs them.> > #> > # ispauth CHAP> > # abortstring> > ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO> > DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED> > # modeminit> > '' ATZ> > # ispnumber> > OK-AT-OK "ATDT8294055"> > # ispconnect> > CONNECT \d\c> > # prelogin> >> > # ispname> > # isppassword> > # postlogin> >> > # end of pppconfig stuff> >> > IN PPP PEERS, I see:> >> > # This optionfile was generated by pppconfig 2.3.15.> > #> > #> > hide-password> > noauth> > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/isp"> > debug> > /dev/ttyS0> > 115200> > defaultroute> > noipdefault> > user "mikrose@xxxxxxx"> >> > ipparam isp> >> > So I am half-way there!> >> > *******************************************************> >> > Jacques Goldberg wrote:> >  > Mic,> >  > Congratulations.> >  > This mail item is deliberately off discussion.> >  > Please let's keep it between you and me.> >  > Please allow me one remark.> >  > As far as I could follow the multi-thread with you, I think that> > reaching success has been painful and too long for you because you may> > have been reading incompletely, if at all, and too quickly, the various> > directions which  we sent you.> >  > An example is item #6 of http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/wvdial.html> >  > on which you wasted a lot of time.> >  >> >  > Friendly yours - Jacques> >  >> >  > mic wrote:> >  >> Hello.  I think you have done it, I am able to get on-line and the> > connection stays on.  Now I'll be able to download updates and get> > things up to current status.  I'll keep you posted.  THanks again!!> >  >> >  >>

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