ESC meeting minutes: 2025-03-20

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* Present:
  + Jonathan, Heiko, Stephan, Ilmari, Hossein, Caolan, Michael S, Stephan, Olivier, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
  + bump the clang in LODE to version 18 (Hossein)
    + in progress
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/182317
    + Discussed in dev mailing list
      + Need to know the best approach
      https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2025-March/093131.html
    + suggest to say a broken combination of clang + libstdc++ is not a problem we should solve (Stephan)
  + print preview is dark on macOS, file issue for Heiko (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Xisco)
  + 24.8.6 rc2 tagged earlier this week. Builds will be available later today
  + 25.2.2 rc2 tag is planned for tomorrow morning.

      - Patches waiting for review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/project:core+branch:libreoffice-25-2-2+status:open

      - Waiting for https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183071


* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Helpcontents
       + Scriptforge pages (A. Romedenne)
       + Page number update (G. Kelemen)
       + Calc Dup's precisions (ohalot)
       + update and fixes (S. Horacek, ohallot, A. Timar)
    + Guides
       + Published Draw Guide 25.2 (P. Schofield)
       + Work in progress for Calc and Getting Started guides (D. Maddern, ohallot)
    + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
        218(218) bugs open
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
           created      6(0)    20(3)      88(-34)   304(-4)
         commented     11(2)    28(-3)    126(4)     881(-22)
          resolved      1(-3)   11(0)      31(-1)    179(-2)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Olivier Hallot made 32 changes in 1 month, and 391 changes in 1 year
          m.a.riosv made 7 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
          Dione Maddern made 4 changes in 1 month, and 121 changes in 1 year
          Rafael Lima made 4 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
          Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
          nobu made 3 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
          Andras Timar made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 2 changes in 1 month, and 156 changes in 1 year
          Leroy made 1 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
          Ldrap Kum made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        226(226) (topicUI) bugs open, 15(15) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
             added      3(-3)      9(0)     10(0)       19(0)
         commented     35(-10)   115(15)   269(10)    1291(-47)
           removed      0(0)       0(0)      1(0)       11(-1)
          resolved      4(-2)     18(3)     40(-1)     218(-1)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 59 changes in 1 month, and 658 changes in 1 year
          Vernon, Stuart Foote made 41 changes in 1 month, and 386 changes in 1 year
          Eyal Rozenberg made 25 changes in 1 month, and 203 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 25 changes in 1 month, and 185 changes in 1 year
          Karthik Godha made 19 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
          Kłos, Szymon made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 60 changes in 1 year
          Radish made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
          Walter made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
          Amin Irgaliev made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
    + [Bug 165814] Consider using vertical tabs for any GTK dialog with > than 6 tabs
    + [Bug 163192] Default options of database ranges
 -> + [Bug 165803] new theming feature breaks old presentations
      + see also gerrit change above (Xisco)
        + not sure if a backport should be done here or not
        + this one changes the doc background back to white (Heiko)
        + not ideal, but working
      + alternative change from Heiko:
        + leave the color config unchanged, but change the templates
          + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183118
        + need to also change how automatic color is applied in Impress
          + would need a code pointer for this
      + some options:
        + keep the doc area white, even in dark mode -> Sahil's approach
        + automatic color vs explicit white/black -> Heiko's approach
      + did you consider interop here? (Hossein)
        + would be nice to stay compatible here
        + the problem here, e.g. Beehive (Heiko)
          + expect light background, content is dark
          + looks broken with dark background
        + in Writer, on print, the doc color is ignored
        + in Impress, there is no such "switch back to default" behavior, there should be one
          + ideal would be to only change Impress here, happy with the Writer behavior (Heiko)
    + [Bug 165792] Rename "Spotlight" to "Highlight styles" in Style List
    + [Bug 165739] Show all math sidebar panels in one deck
    + [Bug 165725] Allow targeting of styles and formatting via regular expressions
           in Find and Replace

 -> + On loading a CSV file, don't remember the From Row setting
      after application restart
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165684
      + small amount of scenarios where you want to remember the settings of the dialog (Heiko)
      + options
        + just change this dialog
        + a way to reset all settings related to remembered dialog options
      + collision between automated detection result vs what's remembered from the previous dialog

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 144(+1) import failure, 32(+1) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
    + 2 coverity issues
    + 3 ossfuzz issues, 1 crash, 2 timeouts

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
    + 24.8.5.2    14678(+5936)
    + 25.2.0.2    190(+7)
    + 25.2.0.3    22864(+2902)
    + 25.2.1.2    8289(+3959)

    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwRenderData::ViewOptionAdjustStop()
    - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164120
    - Printing to PDF
    - Similar to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=96167 ?

* Mentoring (Hossein)
 + Receiving many patches from those interested in GSoC
 + Added some new GSoC ideas
   https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + If you have an idea and you are willing to do mentoring, please add
 + Cygwin 3.6 released, which solved some hang issues
   https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-announce/2025-March/012224.html
  + Waiting to be merged in MSYS2 for "Git bash for Windows"
    https://github.com/msys2/MSYS2-packages/pull/5265 (thanks Ilmari for the links)
          committer...   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open      77(-4)    157(8)      158(3)       158(3)
               reviews     502(92)   1600(-20)   3580(38)    13494(-28)
                merged     253(17)   1137(-80)   3086(-61)   14163(19)
             abandoned      18(0)      67(-15)    181(1)       729(1)
           own commits     142(15)    745(-50)   2047(-30)    9958(-20)
        review commits      72(25)    228(23)     634(38)     2985(-3)
        contributor...   1 week    1 month      3 months     12 months
                  open     112(68)   1119(-1)     1119(-7)      1119(-7)
               reviews     778(40)   2956(-128)   7320(-146)   31128(20)
                merged      30(13)    119(2)       323(15)      1393(3)
             abandoned      17(-1)     72(10)      158(-48)      489(12)
           own commits      29(8)      91(8)       257(13)      1278(8)
        review commits       0(0)       0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 352(352)
       total 425(425)   assigned 38(38)   open 349(349)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Simon Chenery made 21 patches in 1 month, and 40 patches in 1 year
          Bogdan B made 7 patches in 1 month, and 298 patches in 1 year
          Rashesh Padia made 6 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
          Karthik Godha made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
          Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 44 patches in 1 year
          Mohamed Ali made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
          Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
          Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 2 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
          Pierre Vacher made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
          Shantanu Oak made 2 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 138 review comments in 1 month, and 1076 in 1 year
          Weghorn, Michael made 124 review comments in 1 month, and 496 in 1 year
          Christian Lohmaier made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 750 in 1 year
          Caolán McNamara made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 1256 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 808 in 1 year
          Thorsten Behrens made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 672 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 1134 in 1 year
          Hossein   made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 318 in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 780 in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 832 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#51357 add TriangleWipe transition to svg export by impress ( Devansh Varshney )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/163658
        tdf#162967 Add "More Options" to Borders/Border Style ( Kira Tubo )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174463
        vcl: extract BitmapBuffer::GetExtraBitsMask() ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176843
        vcl: extract BitmapBuffer::GetChecksum() ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176844
        vcl: extract lcl_GetDownConvertedPalette() ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176850
        vcl: merge bmpfast.cxx to BitmapBuffer.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177008
        tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177114
        tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177116
        tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177118
        tdf#150800 Always show vertical ruler side option (   )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/178531
        crashreporting: check pActualSection ( Xisco Fauli )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179256
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Banobe Pascal (Collabora)
          Ahmed Khaled
          Muhammad Danish
          Nam Bui

* GSoC (Ilmari)
  + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
  + Add your ideas: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + need more, better ideas (Hossein)
      + with mentors who have the time
  + Next step: applications will open on 24th March

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
  + resting since: 19 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs:  95 ok:  90 ko:   2 fail ratio: 2.11% mean_ok:   8 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs:  94 ok:  89 ko:   5 fail ratio: 5.32% mean_ok:   9 ( 13) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs:  95 ok:  91 ko:   2 fail ratio: 2.11% mean_ok:   9 ( 13) median_ok:   6 (  9)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs:  94 ok:  89 ko:   5 fail ratio: 5.32% mean_ok:   8 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 320 ok: 212 ko: 103 fail ratio: 32.19% mean_ok:  38 ( 40) median_ok:  37 ( 37)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 356 ok: 274 ko:  61 fail ratio: 17.13% mean_ok:  21 ( 23) median_ok:  19 ( 19)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 297 ok: 254 ko:  31 fail ratio: 10.44% mean_ok:  52 ( 52) median_ok:  47 ( 47)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 289 ok: 247 ko:  33 fail ratio: 11.42% mean_ok:  36 ( 41) median_ok:  35 ( 35)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 402 ok: 189 ko: 179 fail ratio: 44.53% mean_ok:  70 ( 70) median_ok:  66 ( 66)
gerrit_master              jobs:  49 ok:  24 ko:  21 fail ratio: 42.86% mean_ok:  52 ( 52) median_ok:  45 ( 45)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 351 ok: 165 ko: 156 fail ratio: 44.44% mean_ok:  72 ( 72) median_ok:  67 ( 67)

   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      4 CppunitTest_sd_filter_eppt        gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      4 JunitTest_svx_unoapi        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      7 CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil

          -> New this week.

     -> Related to 8a17b7f0a679ebf21bcfb425186b205d996d129b "

    tdf#131595 Improve drawinglayer flushing mechanism." ?


     10 Killed by the kill-wrapper        gerrit_linux_gcc_release
     11 aborted by jenkins job timeout        gerrit_windows
     43 Killed by the kill-wrapper        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  + this week: quite some hangs this week (Xisco)
  + CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests failures are also new
    + saw 2 attempts to fix this by Noel (Stephan)
    + should also help with the hangs

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
  + A11y update (Michael W)
    + on vacation
  + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
    + tdf#80596: FILEOPEN DOC: Implemented sprmPDxc* LR indentation
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80596
    + tdf#83844: FILEOPEN DOCX: Implemented *Chars LR indentation
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83844
      + CJK horizontal indentation implemented for DOC/DOCX
      + With debugged/fixed semantics (particularly hanging indentation)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + UNCONFIRMED: 1566 (+11)
        + enhancements: 413  (+11)
        + needsUXEval: 8 (+1)
        + haveBackTrace: 13 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 47 (-1)
        + documentation:  3 (+1)
        + android:  0 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  7 (+0)


    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:

    None



    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        None

* QA stats

    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +119  +2 (-95) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Buovjaga                19
       Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 9
       V Stuart Foote          9
       m_a_riosv               5
       Heiko Tietze            4
       Andreas Heinisch        3
       Balázs Varga (allotropia) 3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       Jonathan Clark          2
       Michael Stahl (allotropia) 2

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
       Hossein                 3
       Oliver Specht (CIB)     3
       mathieu.sachot          3
       Aron Budea              2
       Banobe Pascal           2
       Gerald Pfeifer          2
       Jeff Fortin Tam         2
       V Stuart Foote          2
       studog                  2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Kelemen, Gabor          7
       Balazs Varga            3
       Andreas Heinisch        2
       Grandin, Noel           2
       Jonathan Clark          2
       Vajna, Miklos           2
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
       Bayram Çiçek            1
       Heiko Tietze            1
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       m.a.riosv               14
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      11
       *UNKNOWN*               9
       Vernon, Stuart Foote    5
       Raal                    3
       Specht, Oliver          3
       Weghorn, Michael        3
       yosi3260+libre@xxxxxxxxx 3
       Dieter                  2
       opp                     2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   +

     done by:
        libre                  2
        Raal                   2
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Johnny_M               1
        Weghorn, Michael       1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   +

     done by:
        libre                  2
        Raal                   2
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Johnny_M               1
        Weghorn, Michael       1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1247(-9) bugs open of 13991(+8) total 23(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Raal                   3
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Johnny_M               1
        Weghorn, Michael       1
        m.a.riosv              1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 9(+0)
     Calc          - 6(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     Installation  - 1(+0)
     UI            - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 17(+0)
     Linux         - 4(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 415(-6)
     Calc                     - 241(+0)
     Impress                  - 131(+3)
     LibreOffice              - 55(-2)
     Draw                     - 47(+0)
     Crashes                  - 44(+0)
     Writer: docx filter      - 44(-1)
     Base                     - 36(+0)
     Borders                  - 35(+0)
     UI                       - 35(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 33(-1)
     Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
     Chart                    - 27(+0)
     filters and storage      - 25(-1)
     Printing and PDF export  - 24(+0)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     BASIC                    - 19(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
     graphics stack           - 14(+1)
     Formula Editor           - 11(+0)
     framework                - 3(+0)
     sdk                      - 3(+0)
     Extensions               - 2(+0)
     Installation             - 2(+0)
     Linguistic               - 2(+0)



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