ESC meeting minutes: 2025-01-09

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* Present:
  + Heiko, Jonathan, Xisco, Cloph, Michael W, Stephan, Ilmari, Regina, Michael S, Olivier, Miklos, Eike

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
  + 24.8.5 rc1 in 3 weeks
  + 25.2 rc2 this week?
    + branch rules: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches
      + 1 review needed
      + another 2 for the libreoffice-25-2-0 branch, as usual
    + late features:
      + Sahil is working on the application colors (Heiko)
      + Quick Look plugin for macOS is ready for review (Patrick):
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/178393
          + looks safe, indepdent from LO itself (Cloph)
          + can do a sign build later and then Heiko can check it
          + still on Intel (Heiko)

      + Revert proposal for RC2. "initial implementation of the Histogram Chart" (Xisco)
        + Tomaz's proposed change: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/179811
        + current state is not yet usable (Regina)
        + see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164593 for details (Caolan)
        + can't save to / from XLSX (Regina)
        + not usable from macros, either
        + needs more work
        + best to avoid from the release branch for now
    + new UI language: Abkhaz (ab) (cloph)
      + patch for this is not yet merged
      + UI language, but not a language for text
      + if works, then will merge it, already at 80% UI coverage
      + will avoid Tagalog-like problems in the future
      + never tried such a combination, though (Eike)
        + i.e. UI language, but not a language for text
    + Mac App Store paperwork is sorted out, can publish releases there again (Cloph)
      + though expect a backlog in review, may take a bit of time

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Fixes after translation rounds (ohallot, S. Horacek)
    + Help page for "Appearance" (S. Gautham)
       + %PRODUCTNAME x "LibreOffice" x "Application" in UI?
       <property name="label" translatable="yes" context="appearancetabpage|libreofficethemeslb">LibreOffice Themes</property>
       + %PRODUCTNAME is used in general ~everywhere (Heiko)
         + perhaps donations was an exception
         + currently hardcoded in the .ui file
       + there was an exception for a11y tags (Caolan)
         + don't get->replace->put back to trigger a11y machinery
         + i.e. "application macros"
       => use %PRODUCTNAME in general
    + Browser without Javascript:
        + Help to avoid a "flashing" warning.
        + e.g. https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/shared/05/new_help.html
        + will look at this (Ilmari)
    + Guides
        + Calc Guide 24.8 ready - book under compilation (D. Maddern)
        + Getting Started 25.2 on the way.

    + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
        223(223) bugs open
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
           created     12(8)    102(2)    123(4)     318(2)
         commented     26(23)    67(19)   153(25)    998(5)
          resolved      4(4)     14(2)     28(3)     180(2)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Bogdan B made 204 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 25 changes in 1 month, and 371 changes in 1 year
          Vernon, Stuart Foote made 17 changes in 1 month, and 184 changes in 1 year
          Heiko Tietze made 11 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
          Kelemen, Gabor made 4 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
          John made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
          Sahil Gautam made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
          *UNKNOWN* made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
          Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        227(227) (topicUI) bugs open, 31(31) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
             added      5(-4)    15(-6)    24(-6)      30(-6)
         commented     37(17)   109(-2)   314(4)     1487(-6)
           removed      0(0)      0(0)      4(0)       11(0)
          resolved      6(6)     17(0)     49(6)      243(3)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Vernon, Stuart Foote made 51 changes in 1 month, and 424 changes in 1 year
          Heiko Tietze made 37 changes in 1 month, and 794 changes in 1 year
          Bogdan B made 34 changes in 1 month, and 49 changes in 1 year
          Eyal Rozenberg made 31 changes in 1 month, and 218 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 27 changes in 1 month, and 50 changes in 1 year
          m.a.riosv made 12 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
          Dieter made 11 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 8 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 1 year
          Raal made 7 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
    + [Bug 163114] Comments ignore spacing above first paragraph and below last
           paragraph
    + [Bug 164549] Calc, export as pdf automatically adds sheet name as pdf bookmark
    + [Bug 164586] Remove context-menu option for deleting all comments
    + [Bug 164571] Actively suggest enabling RTL/CTL (resp. CJK) when first editing
           RTL/CTL (resp. CJK) content
    + [Bug 135454] UI: Other fields aren't updated at manual input (you have to jump
           to different field)
    + [Bug 155746] Files in temporary directories should not be allowed to be pinned
    + [Bug 155508] Changing scale in crop dialog doesn't scale image in ratio
           (and there is no option to do it synched)
    + [Bug 164495] Be more liberal with when carets get direction indicators
    + [Bug 164492] Caret direction-indicator does not respect keyboard layout
    + [Bug 164469] Comments in Navigator should look other
    + [Bug 164458] Tools -> Customize -> Keyboard: window lacks "Apply"-button
 -> + [Bug 163624] Multiline text field for pasting / typing multiline formulas
           in conditional formatting rules editor
           + would this preserve linebreaks? (Heiko)
           + we do that already (Eike)
    + [Bug 164452] Extension manager for new UI Options -> Appearance theme shows
           themes installed after removal
    + [Bug 164414] Add an "Open Document Parent Folder" menu option to the File menu
    + [Bug 164427] New Theme selector should have four default variants instead
           current three
    + [Bug 164393] New Options -> Appearance LO Theme panel unable to review the
           list box of 'Customization' items when in 'Automatic' theme
 -> + [Bug 164410] Need visibility for the fonts chosen for embedding
      + good for tendering

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 211(-16) import failure, 14(-1) export failures
     - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     - this list is now complete
    + 0 coverity issues
    + 0 oss-fuzz issues
     - thanks to Jonathan on fixing the last one
    + CVE-2024-12425 and CVE-2024-12426 published

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
    + 24.8.1.2    23395(+275)
    + 24.8.2.1    55611(+272)
    + 24.8.3.2    37012(+4671)
    + 24.8.4.2    4053(+2143)


+ Fixed in 24.8.4 https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwSectionFrame::SwClientNotify(SwModify%20const%20&,SfxHint%20const%20&)

    - Second most reported crash in 24.8.3


+ New in 24.8
https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SfxItemSet::GetByOffset(unsigned%20short,unsigned%20short)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Missing Hossein
          committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                  open      78(16)     152(-3)      153(-3)      153(-3)
               reviews     396(128)   1370(-146)   3872(-30)   13598(-38)
                merged     156(68)     998(-226)   3514(-96)   14239(-83)
             abandoned       5(-6)      47(-11)     153(2)       712(-8)
           own commits      95(29)     611(-146)   2443(-65)   10036(-83)
        review commits      53(16)     212(-2)      818(16)     3237(-22)
        contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                  open     979(785)   1090(139)    1094(138)    1094(138)
               reviews     622(182)   2758(-526)   8424(-90)   31556(-200)
                merged      14(-17)    100(-28)     468(3)      1414(-13)
             abandoned      12(2)       98(4)       190(10)      635(2)
           own commits      15(-10)     98(-14)     433(4)      1395(-3)
        review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 339(339)
       total 421(421)   assigned 29(29)   open 354(354)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Bogdan B made 33 patches in 1 month, and 286 patches in 1 year
          Manish Bera made 7 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
          Kushagra Kasliwal made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
          Rashesh Padia made 6 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
          Shantanu Oak made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
          Alin, Andrei Abahnencei made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
          Samuel Adesola made 2 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
          Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 2 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
          Dione Maddern made 2 patches in 1 month, and 87 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Vajna, Miklos made 162 review comments in 1 month, and 1208 in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 742 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 938 in 1 year
          Caolán McNamara made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1384 in 1 year
          Christian Lohmaier made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 650 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 912 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 536 in 1 year
          Thorsten Behrens made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 676 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 794 in 1 year
          allotropia jenkins made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 330 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#88918: Enable editing of hyperlinks for shapes ( Omkar Nikam )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166396
        tdf#145538: Change two for loops into range based loops ( Aditya (Addy) Sahu )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/175288
        tdf#163486: PVS: remove unused code ( Xisco Fauli )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/175479
        fix: resolve issue with UI commands ( Olga Ngala )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/175727
        tdf#45904 Move SwXTabelRows tests to cpp ( muluh )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/175767
        tdf#114441 Convert use of sal_uLong to better integer types ( ZOK zok )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/175780
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Shantanu Oak

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
  + resting since: 9 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 114 ok: 110 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 114 ok: 110 ko:   3 fail ratio: 2.63% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 114 ok: 111 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   7 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 114 ok: 110 ko:   3 fail ratio: 2.63% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   7 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 247 ok: 185 ko:  52 fail ratio: 21.05% mean_ok:  38 ( 46) median_ok:  35 ( 38)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 282 ok: 223 ko:  48 fail ratio: 17.02% mean_ok:  22 ( 28) median_ok:  19 ( 21)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 262 ok: 198 ko:  52 fail ratio: 19.85% mean_ok:  53 ( 56) median_ok:  47 ( 49)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 242 ok: 190 ko:  44 fail ratio: 18.18% mean_ok:  39 ( 40) median_ok:  34 ( 34)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 316 ok: 169 ko: 124 fail ratio: 39.24% mean_ok:  83 ( 83) median_ok:  75 ( 75)
gerrit_master              jobs:  33 ok:  17 ko:  13 fail ratio: 39.39% mean_ok:  69 ( 69) median_ok:  72 ( 72)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 278 ok: 152 ko: 107 fail ratio: 38.49% mean_ok:  84 ( 84) median_ok:  76 ( 76)
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      3 CppunitTest_vcl_pdf_encryption                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      3 UITest_sw_sidebar                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      5 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
  + it was a nice week for Jenkins
  + tiled rendering error disappeared, the workaround helped
  + poppler update would bump the xcode requirement and also macOS version
    + an old trashcan mac pro would be then not usable for building
    + but it was out of service anyway for a few weeks already
    + currently looking at getting poppler to work with the older macOS baseline (Michael S)
      + will see soon.
      + will test it with gcc-7
      + OK, will wait for this first (Cloph)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
  + A11y update (Michael W)
    + tdf#163335 ("Linux: crash whenever selecting text using cursor or keyboard going from right to left")
      + will fix it in Writer or work it around on the qt side
  + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
    + tdf#66791 sw: Incorrect application of Asian script
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66791
      + Leading weak characters now use same script as first strong characters
    + tdf#152515 Japanese vertical text printed incorrectly on Windows
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152515
        + was broken for quite some time
      + Fixed
      + does that also unblock some cleanup? (Caolan)
        + this old way depended on "@" prefixing, doesn't work with new fonts (Jonathan)

* FOSDEM 2025 (Xisco)
    - DevRoom: Saturday, February 1, from 10AM to 2PM. -- in 3 weeks
    - schedule URL: <https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track/libreoffice/>

* QA update (Xisco)
    + UNCONFIRMED: 1441 (-9)
        + enhancements: 370  (-7)
        + needsUXEval: 14 (-6)
        + haveBackTrace: 12 (+1)
        + needsDevAdvice: 49 (+1)
        + documentation:  8 (+2)
        + android:  0 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  9 (+0)

    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:

    None


    + New high severity bugs of the week:

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +90  -11 (-89) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Buovjaga                14
       QA Administrators       13
       BogdanB                 11
       Heiko Tietze            4
       Patrick (volunteer)     4
       Tomaz Vajngerl          4
       Jonathan Clark          3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       Olivier Hallot          3
       m_a_riosv               3

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Buovjaga                4
       Mike Kaganski           3
       Telesto                 3
       golemus                 3
       Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
       Gerald Pfeifer          2
       Regina Henschel         2
       Xisco Faulí             2
       elias estatistics       2
       goodguy00&#64;zoho.com  2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Vajngerl, Tomaž         4
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
       Olivier Hallot          3
       Patrick Luby            3
       Jonathan Clark          2
       Kaganski, Mike          2
       Le Grand, Armin         2
       Andreas Heinisch        1
       Andy                    1
       Balazs Varga            1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Bogdan B                21
       Raal                    12
       Alex Thurgood           8
       Heiko Tietze            6
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      5
       m.a.riosv               4
       nobu                    4
       Vernon, Stuart Foote    3
       Henschel, Regina        2
       Nabet, Julien           2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   +

     done by:
        Bogdan B               3
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   +

     done by:
        Bogdan B               3
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Aron Budea             1
        Raal                   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1234(-1) bugs open of 13828(+11) total 22(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Bogdan B               3
        Raal                   2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Roman Kuznetsov        1
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Alex Thurgood          1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 10(+0)
     Calc          - 6(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     UI            - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 14(+0)
     Linux         - 5(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 417(+3)
     Calc                     - 244(-1)
     Impress                  - 126(+0)
     LibreOffice              - 51(-2)
     Draw                     - 49(-1)
     Crashes                  - 47(-1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 40(-1)
     Base                     - 38(+1)
     UI                       - 34(-1)
     Borders                  - 33(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 32(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 26(+0)
     Chart                    - 24(+0)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     BASIC                    - 22(+0)
     filters and storage      - 19(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 17(+0)
     graphics stack           - 13(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 12(+0)
     framework                - 3(+0)
     sdk                      - 3(+0)
     Extensions               - 2(+0)
     Linguistic               - 2(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)



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