Re: plz Improve this outdated and not thought trough installer / if possible libreoffice light

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Hi,

On 11.09.2024 1:32, T N wrote:
i am installing lo on one of my machines, i dont have a lot of space left [image 2024-09-10 22_06_35-Window ] so i deay i only want calc and write and no draw impress and never base (who uses this crapware stuck in the 90s anywhay?)

1. There used to be an option to avoid installation of some components on Windows - before version 4.2. But that was not what you might imagine: LibreOffice is a monolithic suite, not something composed of several separate applications; and e.g. graphical elements that you see in Writer and Calc - like rectangles or images - are implemented in the code of Draw, which itself stares 90+% of code with Impress. Writer's very much used "Mail Merge" and "Bibliography" functionalities are implemented using Base code. So that should answer your "who uses this" not-thought-through claim phrased as a "question". They are used much, not only directly (you might take a look at Ask LibreOffice site to see many Base-related questions), but also indirectly, as shown. So - removing Base was only possible by skipping its launcher and disabling its start menu, but it still included all the code - which resulted in net savings of a few kilobytes. And at the same time, that resulted in broken functionality in places where users didn't expect - which led to the decision to drop this option in 4.2 [1].

Note that on Linux, most distros still have full modularity, and even not install Base by default - which keeps the flow of the hard-to-understand-for-users problem solving request on the mentioned Ask site, and bug reports, too.

To summarize this: no, this need not be brought back.

so i was not very happy when i found no way to deselect this components, all i got was this:

[image 2024-09-10 22_06_07-LibreOffice 24.2.6.2 - Installation Wizard ]

not much to deselect there that would help with space consumtion. So if possible let us deselect whole applications like base, impress and draw!

also this question is not very well thought trough

[image 2024-09-10 22_06_58-Window ]

or do you seriously belive that someone would like to set the default action to all exept to doc and rtf files and would rather keep editing them in wordpad. I know how that was thought up, only check what is not associated by others as default. but you may should think again and make an exaption for wordpad!

RTF is very much obsolete file format - its development discontinued by its author (Microsoft) in 2009, which means it doesn't get all the newer features available in their later releases. Same for DOC. And it makes no sense to promote their use as the primary file formats. Windows provides very handy "always open using this app" way of associating any file type with a chosen program, so I see no need to expand the list of associations that we should do in the installer.

But you are welcome anyway to file your requests as feature requests to the bug tracker [2].


[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2#Installer_(Windows_only)

[2] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/


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Best regards,

Mike Kaganski




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