ESC meeting minutes: 2024-08-29

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* Present:
  + Hossein, Michael W, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael S, Regina, Stephan, Xisco, Olivier, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:
  + enable MAR updater by default (Stephan)

* Pending Action Items:
  + perf.libreoffice.org: switch the default to the new data (Cloph)
  + Enable the commit bit for Vivek Javiya (Cloph)
  + Send the new committer mail for Vivek (Miklos)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
  + 24.8.1 rc2 next week?
    + keep an eye on the NSS update, hopefully sorted out by Xisco
    + did anybody figure out why downgrading the NSS DLL version is a problem? (Michael S)
      + Mike K was commenting on that on IRC (Ilmari)
        + "that is likely our MSI check, which checks what to "upgrade", and chooses not to upgrade some newer DLLs; but then doing a complete uninstall."
      + not sure about the details, just updated to the latest version, then back to the ESR version (Xisco)
  + 24.2.6 rc2 this week, later today

* Cell indicator in 24.8 branch (Xisco)
  + Summary: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162646#c20
  + two topics: comment indicator and focus rectangle; no revert please (Heiko)
  + the fear is that what's there in 24.8 is half-done (Xisco)
  + comments are mixed (Ilmari)
    + some people like what's in master
    + just today 2 commits were backported
    + one more patch to merge to 24-8, would be ideal even on 24-8-1
  + the issue is quite old, the focus rectangle of a cell was painted inside the cell (Heiko)
    + then tried outside the cell to not cover content
    + design team suggestion was: push it to the release, see what the wider community likes
    + meanwhile Rafael improved this, seems people are happy with the current state
    + hope the problem is fixed
    + would like to avoid adding more options for this
    + would be good to wait, collect input and not just revert quickly
  + do you support backporting the relevant changes from master? (Ilmari)
    + like it (Heiko)
  + fine with this, just good to not experiment on release branches (Xisco)+

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Help
       + Updates and fixes (ohallot, Pierre F, buovjaga, Alain R.)
    + Guides
       + Work on going.
    + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
        234(234) bugs open
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
           created     33(9)     84(12)   110(4)     257(12)
         commented     69(26)   181(48)   318(49)    943(38)
          resolved     11(2)     49(10)    66(0)     164(9)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Pierre F made 134 changes in 1 month, and 178 changes in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 75 changes in 1 month, and 320 changes in 1 year
          Dione Maddern made 64 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
          Vernon, Stuart Foote made 32 changes in 1 month, and 153 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 27 changes in 1 month, and 119 changes in 1 year
          Ady made 11 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
          Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
          Henschel, Regina made 8 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        233(233) (topicUI) bugs open, 24(24) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
             added      2(-3)    5(-4)      6(-4)      14(-4)
         commented     27(-7)   90(-42)   359(-53)   1673(-74)
           removed      0(0)     0(0)       2(0)       10(0)
          resolved      6(5)    24(0)      72(-1)     274(-7)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 43 changes in 1 month, and 912 changes in 1 year
          Vernon, Stuart Foote made 32 changes in 1 month, and 337 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 17 changes in 1 month, and 143 changes in 1 year
          Eyal Rozenberg made 14 changes in 1 month, and 151 changes in 1 year
          Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
          steve made 8 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
          Kelemen, Gabor made 6 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
          kolAflash made 6 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
          Bogdan B made 5 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
    + [Bug 162005] in windows list (in panel) (LINUX) different icon for .ODT and
           .ODM document windows
    + [Bug 154434] FILEOPEN HTML: Writer loses HTML layout
    + [Bug 162031] Poor visiblity of line linking comment to text
    + [Bug 161972] Inserting new comment in Calc disables the "show all comments"
           setting
    + [Bug 162582] Find toolbar's "Search key not found" error message has
           incompatible colors in dark mode, especially its icon (Sifr dark theme only)
 -> + [Bug 162028] When a cell is protected and the language is changed for all text
           the language of that cell is changed too
           + think it's not a big deal (Heiko)
           + all-text vs protection conflict
    + [Bug 162615] too wide a left sidebar in Start Center for RU locale

 -> + PIVOTTABLE: Warning does not show range when overwriting destination
      range contents
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162417
      + maybe just block overwrite, don't ask

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 18(+2) import failure, 13(+0) export failures
    + 479 coverity issues
    + 2 ossfuzz issues
      - 2 timeouts (2 other issues claimed fixed in oss-fuzz, but not auto-closed)
    + special run for libreoffice-24-8

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + 24.2.3.2    18646(+574)
    + 24.2.4.2    14574(+756)
    + 24.2.5.2    13547(+2739)
    + 24.8.0.3    1336(+0)

    - New in 24.8

        - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwTextINetFormat::GetCharFormat()

      - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwNode::GetNodes()

    - DOCX export

    - seems not on master, trying to see if crashtesting finds a sample (Xisco)

       - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwViewShell::VisPortChgd(SwRect%20const%20&)

           - PDF export


* Mentoring (Hossein)

     + Added a Wiki page for building LO for Windows with WSL

     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWSLWindows
     + WSL build for Linux was previously added
     + In the end, they may be merged in the build pages for relevant OS
          committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                  open      65(-28)    168(-13)     177(-10)     177(-10)
               reviews     328(-38)   1284(-104)   3732(-8)    12950(-244)
                merged     305(53)    1077(28)     3561(75)    13053(34)
             abandoned      12(-5)      81(-8)      239(-1)      777(-3)
           own commits     247(63)     816(64)     2449(78)     9585(69)
        review commits      52(-7)     241(3)       746(-1)     3095(-36)
        contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                  open      36(-28)    103(-11)    112(-6)     112(-6)
               reviews     822(-50)   2918(-34)   8196(88)   29826(-66)
                merged      32(-9)     128(7)      314(16)    1518(-26)
             abandoned       2(-2)      34(-5)      83(-6)     588(-7)
           own commits      17(-8)     106(-5)     328(-2)    1256(-20)
        review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 328(328)
       total 412(412)   assigned 24(24)   open 353(353)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Pierre F made 34 patches in 1 month, and 72 patches in 1 year
            made 11 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Dione Maddern made 11 patches in 1 month, and 78 patches in 1 year
          Adam Seskunas made 9 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
          Hubert Figuière made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
          Ritobroto Mukherjee made 5 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Kurt Nordback made 3 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
          Kira Tubo made 2 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
          Ahmed Hamed made 2 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Thorsten Behrens made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 702 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 846 in 1 year
          Caolán McNamara made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 1416 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1126 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 464 in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 900 in 1 year
          Christian Lohmaier made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 514 in 1 year
          Hossein made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 338 in 1 year
          Heiko Tietze made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 282 in 1 year
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Sohrab Kazak sohrab.kazak@xxxxxxxxx

* GSoC (Ilmari)
  + 26 August is the deadline for final code submissions in non-extended projects
    + then final eval from mentors
  + 4 projects with extensions, to be finished till the end of Sept
  + mentors can see the individual deadlines on the gsoc site

* LiboCon (Cloph)
  + CfP is open: https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2024/cfp
    + 2024-08-31 11:52 (UTC) is the deadline (less than 2 days)
  + Call re development workshop, working on it (Hossein)
  + slot for the ESC call needs filing? (Miklos)
    + yes, and also done for the gsoc panel (Ilmari)
    + looking forward to see students in person (Thorsten)
  + lightning talks slot? (Stephan)
    + not sure if that would be individual vs a placeholder slot
    + blocking out some time for this would be useful (Thorsten)
      + like the lightning talks catch-all slot idea (Cloph)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
  + resting since: 14 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 180 ok: 177 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.67% mean_ok:  13 ( 23) median_ok:   9 ( 16)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 181 ok: 174 ko:   7 fail ratio: 3.87% mean_ok:  12 ( 22) median_ok:   9 ( 14)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 179 ok: 176 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.68% mean_ok:  14 ( 23) median_ok:  11 ( 16)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 180 ok: 179 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.56% mean_ok:  12 ( 23) median_ok:   8 ( 15)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 373 ok: 292 ko:  76 fail ratio: 20.38% mean_ok:  53 ( 62) median_ok:  50 ( 54)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 418 ok: 352 ko:  41 fail ratio: 9.81% mean_ok:  27 ( 36) median_ok:  19 ( 25)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 365 ok: 335 ko:  28 fail ratio: 7.67% mean_ok:  53 ( 53) median_ok:  44 ( 45)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 375 ok: 302 ko:  70 fail ratio: 18.67% mean_ok:  61 ( 63) median_ok:  57 ( 58)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 447 ok: 241 ko: 173 fail ratio: 38.70% mean_ok: 106 (106) median_ok:  91 ( 92)
gerrit_master              jobs:  46 ok:  21 ko:  25 fail ratio: 54.35% mean_ok:  83 ( 83) median_ok:  71 ( 71)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 401 ok: 222 ko: 149 fail ratio: 37.16% mean_ok: 107 (107) median_ok:  92 ( 92)
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      3 CppunitTest_chart2_import2                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      3 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      3 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      3 UITest_sw_ui_frmdlg                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      5 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      9 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
     36 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
  + this week: 1 windows bot got locked into the failure state, otherwise OK (Cloph)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
  + A11y update (Michael W)
    + looking into https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6915 ("LibreOffice Writer:
      provide speech and braille feedback for common shortcut keys), some related
      changes
    + wina11y: Report accessible ID as "id" object attribute, now part of official
      IAccessible2 spec: https://github.com/LinuxA11y/IAccessible2/pull/31
    + Accerciser: improvements to highlighting feature, show process ID
  + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
    + tdf#162639: sw: kashida justification layout was zoom-dependent
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162639
    + tdf#152142: sw: textboxes positioned incorrectly in RTL text
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152142
  + CairoSDPR from Armin
  + tdf#161941 add --with-docrepair-fonts option (Caolán)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + UNCONFIRMED: 1228 (-1)
        + enhancements: 287  (+4)
        + needsUXEval: 3 (-6)
        + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 45 (-2)
        + documentation:  6 (+1)
        + android:  0 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  9 (+0)


    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
         None
     Fixed:
        + LibreOffice doesn't start on Windows (erorr messages about nss3.dll and nspr4.dll)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162589
            + Problematic commit reverted (Xisco)

    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        None

* QA stats (Xisco)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +123  -49 (-118) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Buovjaga                13
       QA Administrators       10
       Heiko Tietze            7
       Justin L                6
       Caolán McNamara         5
       Olivier Hallot          5
       Michael Weghorn         4
       Mike Kaganski           4
       Rafael Lima             4
       Xisco Faulí             4

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Jeff Fortin Tam         6
       Justin L                6
       Buovjaga                4
       Regina Henschel         4
       Bogaboga Man            3
       Cor Nouws               3
       Manu                    3
       Olivier Hallot          3
       Hossein                 2
       Mike Kaganski           2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Justin Luth             5
       Caolán McNamara         4
       Olivier Hallot          4
       Bogaboga Man            3
       Jim Raykowski           3
       Jonathan Clark          3
       Pierre F                3
       Weghorn, Michael        3
       Grandin, Noel           2
       Heiko Tietze            2

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      31
       m.a.riosv               9
       Ady                     8
       Raal                    7
       Justin Luth             5
       Xisco Fauli             5
       Weghorn, Michael        4
       Caolán McNamara         3
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Nabet, Julien           3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   +

     done by:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     9
        Raal                   5
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Steve271               1
        Justin Luth            1
        Németh, László         1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   +

     done by:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas    10
        Raal                   5
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Aron Budea             1
        Steve271               1
        Justin Luth            1
        Németh, László         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1208(+6) bugs open of 13565(+20) total 24(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     7
        Raal                   3
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Ady                    1
        David                  1
        Justin Luth            1
        m.a.riosv              1
        Németh, László         1
        Henning                1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 11(+0)
     Calc          - 6(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
     UI            - 2(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 15(+0)
     Linux         - 6(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 385(+2)
     Calc                     - 241(+0)
     Impress                  - 125(-2)
     LibreOffice              - 53(+1)
     Draw                     - 50(+1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 46(+2)
     Crashes                  - 42(-1)
     Base                     - 39(+0)
     UI                       - 37(+0)
     Borders                  - 34(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 27(+1)
     Chart                    - 24(+0)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     BASIC                    - 20(+0)
     filters and storage      - 20(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 17(+0)
     graphics stack           - 12(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 11(+1)
     framework                - 3(+0)
     Extensions               - 2(+0)
     sdk                      - 2(+0)
     Linguistic               - 1(+0)



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