ESC meeting minutes: 2024-07-04

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* Present:
+ Olivier, Jonathan, Michael W., Heiko, Regina, Ilmari, Stephan, Hossein,
      Michael S., Cloph, Xisco, Caolan

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
  * 24.8.0 rc1 this week
    still on 24-8 branch
    string and UI freeze, additional review then needed
    24-8-0 branch in week 30
  * 24.2.5 rc2 next week
    + 24.2.4 emergency fix for Mac on Appstore (Calc crash)

    - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161461

    - Xisco: lots of reports, proposal to release 24.2.5 early?

    - Cloph would rather wait for more patches for 24.2.5 release,

      can shorten time between rc2 and final (release Thursday next week

      maybe)

  * Python on Windows 7 breakage (Ilmari):
- propose: remove Windows 7 support for 25.2, add to 24.8 release notes? (Mike)
     - unclear what's meant with "removing support" (Cloph)
+ stating that it's unsupported is fine, but actively hindering users from
         using it is not (Cloph)
- reported minium requirement on our website currently is 7, would bump to 8
       https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/ (Heiko)
     - Ilmari will take care of wording in release notes
     - actively issue warnings (e.g. in installer)?  (Hossein)
       - not necessary (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Helpcontents2
        + fixes (ohallot, buovjaga, Pierre F)
    + Guides
        + Work in progress

    + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
        246(246) bugs open
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
           created     1(-13)   25(-10)    94(-3)    232(0)
         commented     1(-20)   73(-16)   230(-13)   890(-7)
          resolved     1(-7)    15(-5)     62(0)     140(1)
    + top 10 contributors:
Olivier Hallot made 43 changes in 1 month, and 270 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year Vernon, Stuart Foote made 16 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in
            1 year
          Raal made 12 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 10 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year Dione Maddern made 9 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 year
          Justin Luth made 8 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
          m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes in 1 year
          *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
239(239) (topicUI) bugs open, 30(30) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated
        by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
             added      2(-1)      7(-2)     11(-1)      18(-2)
         commented     35(-13)   141(-25)   449(-12)   1752(-3)
           removed      0(0)       2(0)       6(-1)      11(0)
          resolved      2(-8)     29(-3)     77(-4)     290(0)
    + top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 91 changes in 1 month, and 961 changes in 1 year Stéphane Guillou made 53 changes in 1 month, and 615 changes in 1 year Vernon, Stuart Foote made 48 changes in 1 month, and 337 changes in
            1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 35 changes in 1 month, and 182 changes in 1 year
          Dieter made 28 changes in 1 month, and 153 changes in 1 year
          Ady made 18 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
          Kira Tubo made 11 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 6 changes in 1 month, and 77 changes in 1 year Henschel, Regina made 6 changes in 1 month, and 43 changes in 1 year + [Bug 161862] Viewing: Feature request. Is it possible to add a horizontal
           scroll search.
+ [Bug 118698] Pressing tab with some content of a table cell selected, selects
           the full cell & the cell next to it
+ [Bug 161781] Application Colors dialog should have a quick way to revert
           all colors to Automatic
 -> + [Bug 161760] Can't set the width of character outline
           + supported by ODF?, input welcome
+ [Bug 161717] Track changes: Clicking on change in document should highlight
           related change in "Manage Changes" window/sidebar
+ [Bug 161455] Unexpected Selecting when character is selected and use TAB to
           move to next cell

 -> + [Bug 159541] Dark background color ignores fix font color
      + remove Font Color from Tools > Options > Application Colors

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 26(+5) import failure, 21(+5) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
    + 3,320 coverity issues
- still experimenting with best Coverity version to use, which options exist
        there
    + 12 ossfuzz issues
      - 3 crashes, 1 OOM, remainder timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + 7.6.6.3    9301(+359)
    + 7.6.7.2    6285(+1163)
    + 24.2.1.2    18401(+433)
    + 24.2.2.2    16768(+665)
    + 24.2.3.2    13676(+970)
    + 24.2.4.2    5451(+1956)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
 + New draft blog post on dev blog
   LibreOfficeKit for document conversion

https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1187&preview=1&_ppp=972e041dd7
   + Thoughts on using LOK unstable API? Input wanted
 + Added as ODK example
   https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/169998
          committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open     115(30)      208(4)      211(6)       211(6)
               reviews     502(-108)   1750(190)   3458(52)    12998(94)
                merged     314(-13)    1275(81)    3399(58)    12753(28)
             abandoned      20(0)        88(6)      190(12)      701(7)
           own commits     166(-24)     753(-28)   2345(-16)    9326(20)
        review commits      57(-79)     308(5)      754(-19)    3100(-2)
        contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open      40(-16)     92(-11)     93(-16)      93(-16)
               reviews     984(12)    3244(178)   7738(60)    29622(38)
                merged      41(-13)    125(31)     291(-22)    1589(14)
             abandoned       8(7)       27(2)      100(3)       717(3)
           own commits      35(-25)    137(16)     335(-20)    1209(14)
        review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 325(325)
       total 410(410)   assigned 24(24)   open 352(352)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Bogdan B made 65 patches in 1 month, and 84 patches in 1 year
Ritobroto Mukherjee made 7 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
          Dione Maddern made 4 patches in 1 month, and 65 patches in 1 year
          Pierre F made 4 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in
            1 year
          Adam Seskunas made 3 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
          Kira Tubo made 3 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year Stéphane Guillou made 2 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
Nabet, Julien made 218 review comments in 1 month, and 980 in 1 year Vajna, Miklos made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 1172 in 1 year Taichi Haradaguchi made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 326 in 1 year Christian Lohmaier made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 452 in 1 year Xisco Fauli made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 718 in 1 year Thorsten Behrens made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 668 in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 576 in 1 year Caolán McNamara made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 1472 in 1 year Kaganski, Mike made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 498 in 1 year Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 598 in
            1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#148192 Create new option External Firebird under create new database
        ( Juan C. Sanz )
          -> WIP, restored
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/143902
WIP: tdf#51779 - Support for SQL datatype INTERVAL ( Devansh Varshney )
          -> WIP, restored
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165012
        WIP: tdf#32506 Find & Replace for Base ( Devansh Varshney )
          -> WIP, restored
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165226
        Simplify erase ( Zainab Abbasi )
          -> OK, needs changes by the author, no response yet
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166193
tdf#160194 Add all 3 Spotlight commands (Paragraph Style, Character Style,
        Direct Formatting) to Style Inspector ( Ashwani Kumar )
          -> OK, needs changes by the author, no response yet
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166381

* GSoC (Ilmari)
  + Midterm evaluations deadline 12 July
    - some slightly delayed projects, too
+ for LibOCon, should participants submit lightning talks to present their projects
    or is that handled differently (e.g. one slot for all)? (Michael W)
+ has always been a dedicated slot, no need to submit separate talks (Ilmari)

LiboCon - CfP is open:
   * https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2024/cfp

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
  + resting since: 10 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 190 ok: 182 ko: 5 fail ratio: 2.63% mean_ok: 12 ( 34) median_ok: 9 ( 26) gerrit_android_arm jobs: 189 ok: 185 ko: 3 fail ratio: 1.59% mean_ok: 13 ( 33) median_ok: 10 ( 23) gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 190 ok: 183 ko: 5 fail ratio: 2.63% mean_ok: 13 ( 34) median_ok: 9 ( 27) gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 190 ok: 184 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.11% mean_ok: 13 ( 35) median_ok: 9 ( 24) gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 391 ok: 319 ko: 62 fail ratio: 15.86% mean_ok: 51 ( 73) median_ok: 48 ( 66) gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 470 ok: 365 ko: 74 fail ratio: 15.74% mean_ok: 27 ( 47) median_ok: 20 ( 35) gerrit_mac jobs: 391 ok: 348 ko: 34 fail ratio: 8.70% mean_ok: 57 ( 62) median_ok: 49 ( 55) gerrit_windows jobs: 419 ok: 303 ko: 105 fail ratio: 25.06% mean_ok: 64 ( 81) median_ok: 59 ( 69) gerrit_master_ml jobs: 516 ok: 260 ko: 212 fail ratio: 41.09% mean_ok: 137 (139) median_ok: 115 (115) gerrit_master jobs: 49 ok: 24 ko: 20 fail ratio: 40.82% mean_ok: 76 ( 78) median_ok: 63 ( 63) gerrit_master_seq jobs: 467 ok: 236 ko: 192 fail ratio: 41.11% mean_ok: 137 (143) median_ok: 119 (119)
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil 3 CppunitTest_sd_annotation_tests gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      3 CppunitTest_sw_autocorrect                gerrit_windows
      3 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test3 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      5 CppunitTest_sw_htmlexport                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      5 CppunitTest_sw_rtfexport8                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
     12 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
     53 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
     + problems with Windows bots, failing lots of builds in a row
    + timeout issue withsw_a11y, probably

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     no news this week
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
       + tdf#101686 Text render changes to RTL depending on zoom level
           - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101686
           - VCL RTL state leaking into LTR context. Fixed.

* QA update (Xisco)
    + UNCONFIRMED: 1185 (+23)
        + enhancements: 265  (+3)
        + needsUXEval: 4 (-1)
        + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
        + documentation:  5 (+0)
        + android:  0 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  9 (+0)

    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:

    None


    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        None

* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +91  +51 (-82) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       QA Administrators       12
       László Németh           7
       ady                     6
       Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 5
       Heiko Tietze            4
       Julien Nabet            4
       Mike Kaganski           4
       Tibor Nagy              4
       Balázs Varga (allotropia) 2
       Buovjaga                2
    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       kolAflash               3
       Óvári                   3
       Daniele                 2
       Rafael Lima             2
       Robert Großkopf         2
       Hossein                 1
       Oliver                  1
       Olivier Hallot          1
    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Németh, László          7
       Nagy Tibor              4
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Kaganski, Mike          3
       Balazs Varga            2
       Michael Stahl           2
       Nabet, Julien           2
       Patrick Luby            2
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
       Aron Budea              1
    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Stéphane Guillou        18
       m.a.riosv               9
       Nabet, Julien           5
       *UNKNOWN*               3
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Kaganski, Mike          3
       Ady                     2
       Patrick Luby            2
       Alex Thurgood           1
       Balland-Poirier, Laurent 1



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