* Present:
+ Regina, Stephane, Caolan, Cloph, Khaled, Heiko, Xisco, Hossein, Ilmari, Stephan, Miklos, Olivier, Michael S, Gabriel, Thorsten, Tomaz, Raphael, Eike
* Completed Action Items:
+ update Caolan's affiliation on the TDF / ESC page (Ilmari)
+ give the commit bit to Taichi (Cloph)
+ send the welcome mail to Taichi (Miklos)
* Pending Action Items:
+ ESC tendering: prepare the sheet with the ideas + estimates (Ilmari, Xisco)
+ Xisco shared the sheet for ESC consumption, hope to have it ready soon
* Release Engineering update (Cloph/Xisco)
+ master is bumped to 24.2, complain if that breaks scripts
+ 7.6 status: rc 1 will be in 3 weeks / string / UI freeze
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.5 rc1 in 2 weeks
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
+ Updates for accessing uno commands (ohallot)
+ Fixes (L. Balland)
+ Guides
+ Published Math Guide 7.5 (V. Ferreira)
+ Published Impress Guide 7.5 (Schofield)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
260(260) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 2(-1) 17(-14) 82(-8) 303(0)
commented 7(-2) 46(-21) 247(-24) 1034(4)
resolved 1(0) 9(-4) 39(-4) 176(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
Seth Chaiklin made 12 changes in 1 month, and 329 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 11 changes in 1 month, and 500 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 219 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 6 changes in 1 month, and 108 changes in 1 year
Robert Großkopf made 5 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 4 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 4 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 4 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 3 changes in 1 month, and 101 changes in 1 year
Cip made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
275(275) (topicUI) bugs open, 62(62) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 8(4) 14(4) 32(1) 55(5)
commented 33(-33) 203(-58) 834(-44) 2366(-1)
removed 1(0) 4(-1) 14(0) 30(1)
resolved 2(-6) 30(-15) 103(-6) 312(-8)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 144 changes in 1 month, and 1462 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 42 changes in 1 month, and 332 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 37 changes in 1 month, and 251 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 23 changes in 1 month, and 270 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 19 changes in 1 month, and 368 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 16 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 15 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 207 changes in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 13 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
Attila Szűcs made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 155839] When propmpted about missing hyphenation data - I should be
offered a download link
+ [Bug 151976] missing Standard Toolbar buttons when editing chart
+ [Bug 155737] EDITING a cell: can't undo back to overwritten contents
+ [Bug 80188] Undo after Cut/Paste does not restore original cell contents
+ [Bug 155834] Unnumbered entries do not move together with their main entry,
when list's "move item up / down" commands are used
-> + [Bug 154756] Vertical text direction results in rotation, not vertical
text direction
+ current behavior looks OK (Khaled)
+ opt-in / new way would be possible
+ [Bug 155729] Set paragraph style drop down is able to create new styles,
which is unconventional (and not fitting the label)
* ESC tender project proposal process (Thorsten & Florian)
+ propose a separate call, for those who want to rank (Thorsten)
+ suggest to re-use the ESC call timeslot for this if it works for everyone (Miklos)
+ no objections, let's decide next week (Thorsten)
+ today Xisco updated the ESC-aimed sheet, on nextcloud (Ilmari)
+ categories: drop, on-hold, do it, split it
+ worked on the budget 2023 page, dropping already done items
+ proposal: Ilmari will update the final voting result sheet (from Feb)
+ keep the votes there that people added
+ drop "done" items
+ in the call next week:
+ discuss what to drop, what to postpone, see if there are any objections
+ would speed things up if people are happy with existing votes
+ dropping items -> some may want to re-consider the vote
+ who to attend that call:
+ 22 members in the ESC
+ typical bidders: allotropia & Collabora is 9 members, so no majority
+ understanding is that the people who attend that call, there non-bidders have to have majority (Thorsten)
+ this is for discussion, not yet voting
+ how to do that: list everyone, potential bidders mark themselves, then see what has to be done
+ for people who usually participate, may not be a problem
+ for the vote, exclusively non-bidders (maybe a week later)
+ need to clear all the bidder votes? (Ilmari)
+ different reading: can have all input still (Thorsten)
+ but follow the process: meeting, no non-bidder majority there
+ suggestion: discuss it with Florian and if he sees this problematic, tweak it (Thorsten)
+ one step remaining (Xisco)
+ internal refactors, mostly proposed by Armin
+ really hard to evaludate the cost estimate of those tenders
+ what to do? leave them apart?
+ for staff, it's really hard to evaluate
+ many of these items really hold us back (Thorsten)
+ what is needed here is a plausability check
+ the intention is that nobody can play games with over or underestimating there
+ but it's not optional, somebody has to take responsibility
+ if not possible in time, there is a way to contract this out, but it's out of the question for this round
+ when a description has code pointers & bug reports, it's easier (Ilmari)
+ having more description + more details would be great (Hossein)
+ 1 page description for a tender would be much better
+ it helps judging
+ listing bugs is already helpful (Thorsten)
+ hesitate to say it must be 1 page
+ history of that was sometimes everybody knew what was the thinking there without more details
+ we won't have any problems if we let TDF members decide (Heiko)
+ if there is a good description -> then members can decide more easily
+ this is not the purpose (Thorsten)
+ rework stuff that is useful, but not necessarily instantly user-visible
+ e.g. Android project -> no instant end-user-visible app was there at the end
+ can't propose pie-in-the-sky projects here, people will see
+ idea: 10% of newly added project budget to be decided by members/community
+ bugzilla voting can be used there
+ orthogonal to ESC projects
+ with respect, disagree (Heiko)
+ if explained, members would do understand the details
+ good example: gbuild (Thorsten)
+ is a massive boost to dev productivity
+ no direct impact for users
+ if you have a concern, best to discuss that for the next year instead
+ justification for 1 page doc (Hossein)
+ this is a formal process
+ having a longer description to justify the tendering is good
+ tenders are worth a lot of money -> better description can be expected
+ tend to think: we had small and large projects (Thorsten)
+ fixed 1 page is not optimal
+ instead: more details is great
+ next step: ranking discussion next Thursday in the ESC timeslot (Ilmari)
+ can lead that call (Ilmari)
+ no objections (all)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 31(+4) import failure, 5(+5) export failures
-> Regina fixed new ones with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/153063
+ 1 coverity issues
+ 5 ossfuzz issues
- one crash, probably fixed, new apng stuff
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.7.2
+ (+62) 380 318 250 251 118 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.3.2
+ (-246) 1109 1355 1174 1029 702 453 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.4.2
+ (+365) 365 0
+ Fixed in 7.5.4.2
- StyleList::CustomRenderHdl(std::tuple<OutputDevice &,tools::Rectangle const &,bool,rtl::OUString const &>)
- sw::DocumentLayoutManager::CopyLayoutFormat(SwFrameFormat const &,SwFormatAnchor const &,bool,bool)
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ New EasyHack
+ tdf#155856 - Port C++ SDK examples make files to cmake / qmake
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155856
+ Mentoring calls
+ Submission problem -> Network issue
+ Guidance on building extension
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 72(21) 139(37) 189(36) 199(37)
reviews 380(140) 1088(124) 2922(0) 10814(136)
merged 265(3) 1086(35) 3103(-33) 12416(122)
abandoned 19(5) 56(9) 173(11) 658(11)
own commits 148(-22) 712(-51) 2365(-69) 10304(8)
review commits 54(8) 238(0) 731(-74) 3042(1)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 14(-2) 30(-15) 217(-14) 221(-13)
reviews 752(70) 2606(68) 7938(-82) 31894(116)
merged 16(1) 61(-27) 445(-49) 2791(-100)
abandoned 2(1) 6(-4) 60(-6) 499(-14)
own commits 20(-1) 74(-4) 258(-42) 1007(-33)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 329(329)
total 396(396) assigned 27(27) open 343(343)
+ top 10 contributors:
Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 10 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 8 patches in 1 month, and 71 patches in 1 year
Colomban Wendling made 6 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
Baole Fang made 6 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
Czeber László made 5 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
Vojtěch Doležal made 4 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
Sophia Schroeder made 4 patches in 1 month, and 46 patches in 1 year
Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
Bogdan B made 2 patches in 1 month, and 94 patches in 1 year
Rafał Dobrakowski made 2 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Nabet, Julien made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 924 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1070 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 382 in 1 year
Caolán McNamara made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 64 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 836 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 570 in 1 year
Hossein made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 286 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 336 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 324 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Michel Weimerskirch
Martin Jambor (SUSE)
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ coding started on 29th May (Thorsten)
+ Phase 1 evaluations: July 10 - July 14 18:00 UTC (Ilmari)
+ in 4 weeks
+ 1 mail is in the moderation queue
+ will check that (Eike)
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
+ resting since: 12 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 169 ok: 157 ko: 8 fail ratio: 4.73% mean_ok: 12 ( 18) median_ok: 9 ( 10)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 168 ok: 153 ko: 8 fail ratio: 4.76% mean_ok: 11 ( 17) median_ok: 7 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 169 ok: 154 ko: 10 fail ratio: 5.92% mean_ok: 12 ( 17) median_ok: 8 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 169 ok: 154 ko: 9 fail ratio: 5.33% mean_ok: 10 ( 16) median_ok: 8 ( 11)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 362 ok: 243 ko: 102 fail ratio: 28.18% mean_ok: 52 ( 57) median_ok: 50 ( 50)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 336 ok: 276 ko: 49 fail ratio: 14.58% mean_ok: 23 ( 26) median_ok: 20 ( 21)
gerrit_mac jobs: 347 ok: 259 ko: 67 fail ratio: 19.31% mean_ok: 47 ( 51) median_ok: 43 ( 44)
gerrit_windows jobs: 354 ok: 252 ko: 74 fail ratio: 20.90% mean_ok: 62 ( 77) median_ok: 56 ( 61)
gerrit_master jobs: 362 ok: 194 ko: 139 fail ratio: 38.40% mean_ok: 83 ( 83) median_ok: 64 ( 64)
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230608.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
3 JunitTest_sc_unoapi_1 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
3 JunitTest_sc_unoapi_2 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 UITest_calc_tests8 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
7 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
7 UITest_impress_tests gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
9 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch gerrit_windows
23 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_mac
+ UITest_impress_tests failures on two of the bots seem to be gone with
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/152914 "tdf#154451 UITest_impress_tests: do not use oneprocess mode for now"
+ this week was normal week, would say (Cloph)
+ UITests_impress_tests is now better, thanks Xisco
+ auto-retry rule can be now dropped
+ migration in Switzerland is mostly done (Adfinis)
+ 3 more macs coming online soon
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ multi-color gradients (Armin)
+ what will we have UI for this? (Regina)
+ in 7.6?
+ don't think so, not in core (Thorsten)
+ wonder if gradient preset / template via ODF would be possible
+ started to think about release notes (Regina)
+ a document to the release notes that has some shapes with MCGR
+ so users can copy&paste
+ other idea: extend the normal palette with 1-2 MCGRs
+ that is possible in time, e.g. rainbow
+ not easy to have a nice rainbow :)
+ input from design team would be really good
+ once have a fix on master, can somebody help with 7.6 backporting? (Regina)
+ Xisco is open to help
+ that's a great service (Thorsten)
+ seconded (Miklos)
+ document themes (Tomaz)
+ Writer DOCX filter is free from grab-bags
+ added some more properties that are now theme-able (to Writer)
+ tdf#155118 multi-page floating tables in Writer (Miklos)
+ Added some basic SVG filters support (Xisco)
+ blur and colormatrix is added
* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
+ call for papers: https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2023/cfp
+ Deadline is at the end of June
+ Mike published a blog post for the workshop: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/06/13/learn-about-libreoffice-development-at-our-upcoming-conference/
+ 3 days of workshop
+ whoever wants to help in organizing, you're welcome to join (Gabriel)
+ contact Hossein, please
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1147 (+32)
+ enhancements: 269 (+7)
+ needsUXEval: 10 (+4)
+ haveBackTrace: 8 (-1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 34 (+0)
+ documentation: 1 (+0)
+ android: 4 (+1)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 12 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Opening spreadsheet very slow
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151946
+ already fixed, thanks Noel
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ Dashboard news:
+ Can now show inherited issues in per-version chart
+ New "needinfo" and "open" timelines
+ Backport Justin's Tabbed UI fix to 7.5? https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/152125
+ 13 duplicates; 6 agreements/positive feedback on Bugzilla
+ hunting for a reviewer
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+112 +9 (-113) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 19
Justin L 11
خالد حسني 9
Julien Nabet 7
Buovjaga 6
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 6
m.a.riosv 5
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
László Németh 3
Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
jindam, vani 6
AvidSeeker 4
Eyal Rozenberg 4
Xisco Faulí 4
Regina Henschel 3
SATYA SRINIVAS K 3
Telesto 3
Aron Budea 2
Caolán McNamara 2
Don Matschull 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Justin Luth 3
Németh, László 3
Samuel Mehrbrodt 3
خالد حسني 3
Balazs Varga 2
Juan C. Sanz 2
Le Grand, Armin 2
Nabet, Julien 2
Paris Oplopoios 2
Stéphane Guillou 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Heiko Tietze 6
Stéphane Guillou 5
m.a.riosv 5
Dieter 4
*UNKNOWN* 3
Hossein 3
Justin Luth 3
Nabet, Julien 3
ady 3
خالد حسني 3
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 4
Justin Luth 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 4
Justin Luth 2
Xisco Fauli 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1200(-3) bugs open of 12608(+8) total 14(+0) high prio.
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 3
Justin Luth 1
Németh, László 1
Telesto 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 8(+0)
Calc - 3(+0)
Draw - 1(+0)
Impress - 1(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 10(+0)
Linux - 2(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 420(+0)
Calc - 217(+0)
Impress - 134(+0)
LibreOffice - 49(+0)
Crashes - 47(+0)
Draw - 46(-2)
Writer: docx filter - 45(+0)
Base - 42(+0)
UI - 35(+1)
Writer: perf - 33(+0)
Borders - 32(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+1)
Chart - 25(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 24(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
BASIC - 18(+0)
filters and storage - 18(-1)
Writer: doc filter - 13(+0)
graphics stack - 13(+0)
Formula Editor - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
framework - 2(+1)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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