Thank you all for sharing your
opinion.
Please keep in mind that "a really
big jump" or "a major innovation" will always be very
subjective and depend on personal areas of interest or
specialties, and I suspect that we will have dozens of
different opinions (and no agreement) if we ask what
constitutes a feature that is significant enough to warrant a
major version number.
Concretely, here is the shortlist
of things that, in my _subjective_ opinion, are important in
the upcoming version (somewhat similar to László's):
- availability on all major desktop
platforms, including through official app stores
- advertise availability for ARM
processors on Windows
- build baseline bump
- zoom gesture support
- cementing of updated visual
identity and improved theming following the OS's
- improvements in accessibility of
documents, including accessibility checked in sidebar and
tagged PDF export by default
- two new languages
- multi-page floating tables
- _maybe_ Skia by default on macOS
- _maybe_ new Windows installer
Waiting for significantly "bigger"
(again, very subjective) changes in LibreOffice is a bit
unrealistic, knowing the project grows and has grown very
organically.
In the end, I have no strong
opinion about it. I just hope everyone can remain respectful
and understand that sometimes, decisions have to be made, and
I believe the marketing team, after some discussion with the
rest of the TDF team, the Design team and the ESC, are a good
fit to take such decisions, instead of heated conversations
filled with subjective opinions on what feature is or isn't
important.
The recent interaction makes me
think a year/month versioning scheme is beneficial in that
discussing version bumps will not be needed anymore. It's
definitely not worth getting insulted, and I am sorry Italo
had to be at the receiving end of that. And as Jorge said:
let's not get bogged down into something that is in the end
quite trivial.
I do however want to say I
appreciate and take note of input from people like Regina
(associating major releases with ODF releases, the default
standard we are proud of), Kelvene (cultural aspect of the
number), David (deciding early on to allow work on more
disruptive projects) and Nigel ("The universal office suite",
highlighting our strength in language and platform support).
Cheers!
On 29/3/23 11:13, Pedro Rosmaninho
wrote:
I would just like to counter what Eyal Rosenberg says. Version number should be a marketing decision.
But I agree with his points that marketing must consider that major innovations or missing features should be included with a major number change otherwise said number change will fall flat.The number 8 is a great opportunity so it shouldn't be wasted without having something impactful when it is launched.
Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@xxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu no dia terça, 28/03/2023 à(s) 15:40:
Hi Italo,
the change from 6.x to 7.0 happens together with the change from ODF 1.2
to ODF 1.3. If the decision it to keep this kind of numbering, I think a
change to 8.0 should happen when LibreOffice starts support for ODF 1.4.
ODF 1.4 will hopefully be released end of 2024.
Kind regards,
Regina
Italo Vignoli schrieb am 27.03.2023 um 19:11:
> Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing
> purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in
> the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is
> that we are forever stuck at 7.x.
>
> We all know that the next version will not include any significant
> innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new
> build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm
> processors on Windows (which has not been announced).
>
> Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the
> "infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an
> infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all
> operating systems for personal productivity.
>
> This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't
> insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the
> marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I
> am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on
> the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a
> very short memory).
>
> Looking forward to your thoughts.
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