Hi Regina, On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 01:56:09AM +0100, Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I ran into the above problem while investigating how to export a Fontwork > shape to docx. For the scope of Fontwork -- if you see that Word likes to express feature set that is close to our fontwork as VML, then exporting that shape only as VML may make sense. That sidesteps the entire DML/VML duplicated output that we normally produce. > So my question is, > What is the desired behavior for export of a shape, which is inside a frame? > What gives the best user experience? It seems to me that in general Writer supports more features here than Word, so you can't handle all cases. E.g. when I have a textbox in Word and I insert a shape (anchored) and I try to move its anchor, Word won't let me move that anchor inside the textbox. The same works fine in Writer with a textframe and a shape. Similarly, if I insert an image inside a textbox in Word, then its anchor type will be "inline" and the UI is disabled to change the wrapping. I believe it makes sense to focus on the DML output, since only Word 2007 cares about the VML output; but other than that, ideally we should try to express the textframe and its content as good as possible using both markups. That means writing both the textframe/shape and its content using both DML and VML. Sometimes this is not possible -- if the result would render the entire export result unreadable, then it makes sense to do compromises and e.g. lose the wrap type or the correct anchor position. We do such "delayed" export of shapes here & there in the docx export code already. Hope this helps. :-) Regards, Miklos