Present: Eyal, Sascha, Heiko
General discussion
* Procedure of handling closed topics
+ me doesn't close reopened tickets (Heiko)
+ trying to have not too many tickets requesting input from UX
+ UI changes that are not consensual - how are future suggestions
for reversal treated (regardless of time)? (Eyal)
+ we have a democratic approach, if the majority of commenters
have an opinion this is the way to go (whether to resolve or not)
+ meritocracy counts, experts' option are paramount
+ consistency is prime, changing things back and forth are bad
+ it's always legitimate to reopen/create tickets to reconsider decisions
+ however, convincing people from the opposite of the previous decisions
takes much more persuasion; usually those tickets are quickly
closed again
+ is there a formal procedure to file a bug? (Eyal)
+ everyone should be able to write down ideas; QA/UX asks back what the
use case is, if it affects more users/use cases, and what a general
solution might be
+ would be nice to have these information somewhere
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport is a guideline but
maybe missing the point on enhancements
=> AI: expand on this
Tickets/Topic
* Drag and drop below the last position should place the caret at the end
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135905
+ allow or block dragging beyond the end of document
+ current situation allows to drop in the void and pasts at the end,
which is convenient precision-wise (Sascha)
+ is drag/drop at the end of the document a common workflow? (Heiko)
+ yes, i do so often; in particular with images (Eyal, Sascha)
+ can follow the OP's idea of a clear workflow; position of caret is wrong
+ if we show the caret at the correct position at the end it might be
a proper compromise (Eyal)
=> reopen the ticket and adjust the summary
* Add indicator of text outside page boundary eg. due to negative indentation
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47718
+ Frames (without Autosize) show a red "text overflow" triangle; we should
do the same on indentation beyond the canvas
+ the specific choice of a red color could be a bit annoying visually,
somewhat garish (Eyal)
+ showing the triangle outside the document canvas wouldn't draw it over
the text
+ do we need to allow overly low/high values at all? (Sascha)
+ IIRC, MSO allows to indent by ~10km ;-)
+ It's useful because the page width might change, and 'invalid' values
may become valid again or vice-versa (Eyal)
=> do it
* Add Gutter Margin in Page Margin drop down menu of layout tab of
Tabbed interface
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141720
+ not needed in the floating widget as it's not a frequently used
feature (Heiko, Sascha)
+ /ranting: this widget with quick access to properties seems to be
a direct formatting but changes the page style and is wrong in the
first place (Heiko)
+ nah, it's a useful thing to play with margins and see how it looks
immediately, rather than guess, in the dialog, how the new margins will
look when you close the dialog (Eyal)
+ it is well-known among the experts (Eyal)
+ widget is labeled "margins" (Sascha)
+ another tool/notebookbar item, named "Gutter", instead of the request of
this bug? (Eyal)
+ same arguments, -1 (Heiko)
+ sympathize with the idea and my -1 is a weak one (Eyal)
+ notebookbar protagonists should make a statement
=> keep the ticket
* Add a view option for 'Book view' to suppress page gutter
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140565
+ always show gutter; view menu is too long right now, users don't know
book view mode neither gutter - but would be confronted on the menu
(Heiko)
+ would introduce an option to hide the gutter (Sascha)
+ show by default but bind to "Show Whitespace" (Eyal)
+ features are not related to each other (Heiko)
+ clicking on the gutter could collapse to a minimum and clicking this would
expand back (Eyal)
+ requires a menu entry for a11y (Heiko)
+ no objection to the UNO command "Show Gutter" that can be customized
somewhere (Heiko)
=> do so
* Allow page gutter position 'Right' for left pages
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140568
+ important for RTL/LTR documents (Eyal)
+ left/right is supposed to be superseded by even/odd (Sascha)
+ perhaps "side" (and top) instead of left (Heiko)
=> let's discuss on BZ
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