Re: Unclear string to translate in inspectorproperties.hrc

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Thank you, Mike & Shivam, for explanation.
We should probably translate the strings in a similar cryptic way.

The inspector pane is not displayed (I have the most recent build), so I'll wait for a fix.

thanks
Milos


On 8/12/20 12:04 PM, Mike Kaganski wrote:
Hi,

On 12.08.2020 12:52, Milos Sramek wrote:
we got for translation 200+ new strings, which are located in file
inspectorproperties.hrc and seem to be related to the Style Inspector
sidebar deck.

These strings are not full sentences and seem to have a certain logic
structure, for example

Fill Bitmap Rectangle Point
Char Interoperability Grab Bag
Char Weight Complex

So, we do not know, how to translate them. Should they be translated at all?

Basically answered in i10n mailing list; citing here:


Some background.

These strings are related to the Styles Inspector - a GSoC project,
being implemented by Shivam Kumar Singh
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134554). The
inspector is already available in Experimental mode (see comment 2 in
the meta issue).

The Inspector presents a detailed low-level view of properties applied
at the cursor. As such, it shows the multitude of attributes applied to
text (or other object in the future); most these attributes have their
names in multiple dialogs throughout the UI, but this is the first time
when all of them need to be named in a single place. And translation in
dialogs can not be used directly, e.g. because the translation there in
dialogs may use context absent in the Inspector.

One possible improvement could be to provide a hint somehow near the IDs
in inspectorproperties.hrc, where known/possible, to the related strings
in the dialogs/other UI parts, to help translators understand what this
item is about. But that's a separate task/TODO: the current work on
Inspector does not consider dialogs; the Inspector is created based on
the properties available using UNO API, and thus Shivam does not know
where the items are located in existing UI. (This is to clarify that
there's no information already used by developers, potentially useful to
translation, that was somehow lost during development.)

The names that Shivam has put there are possibly somewhat "cryptic"
exactly because of the mentioned specifics: the names are mostly the API
names, which were split by CamelCase to produce strings like "Char
Weight Complex", intended to be used in context of table like

    Char Interoperability Grab Bag    "some string"

    Char Weight Complex    10

So the mentioned TODO would also allow to gradually find the existing
names of the attributes, and make them consistent in the Inspector.


Milos Sramek wrote:
Currently, I can see only two items in Style Inspector sidebar deck in
Writer
Font name
Font size

In the file inspectorproperties.hrc there is
"Char Font Name"
but no
"Char Font Size"

Are the strings, which i can see in the Inspector, derived somehow from
the strings in  inspectorproperties.hrc?

You obviously look somewhere else. The Inspector looks like this:
https://imgur.com/xu2Wvh2
You might need to move cursor/type something for the initially empty
deck to initialize (a bug).

Note that there are exactly "Char Font Name" and "Char Font Height", but
no "Font name" or "Font size" currently.


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