ESC meeting minutes: 2020-08-06

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* Present:
    + Stephan, Caolan, Michael S, Heiko, Ilmari, Sophie, Cloph, Thorsten, Olivier, Xisco, Miklos, Eike, Kendy, Michael M

* Completed Action Items:
    + investigate the failure of the bug stats fods generator (Xisco)
      [ it just started to work magically ]
    + grant tag push permission on gerrit to Aron Budea & Miklos (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:
    + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status: 7.0.0 released yesterday
      + last minute fix for langpack problem on mac:
        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134607
      + problem is not yet understood, but have a workaround
    + 6.4 status: 6.4.6 rc2 is scheduled for this week, tagging later today
      + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/project:core+branch:libreoffice-6-4-6+status:open
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
      + Extended tips (*)
    + Helpcontents2
      + Updates and housekeeping files (ohallot, libeofficiant, Johnny_M)
    + Guides
      + Several books on-going, Most on version 7.0
    + Google Seasons of Doc 2020
      + Awaiting Google announcement


* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        250(250) (topicUI) bugs open, 244(244) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
             added     11(6)     21(6)     41(5)      157(4)
         commented     96(17)   335(-8)   952(6)     3599(-42)
           removed      0(0)      3(-1)     9(-1)      51(0)
          resolved      7(-8)    36(-4)   121(-7)     385(-13)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 190 changes in 1 month, and 2113 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 97 changes in 1 month, and 322 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 43 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 38 changes in 1 month, and 565 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 30 changes in 1 month, and 502 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 30 changes in 1 month, and 574 changes in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 17 changes in 1 month, and 82 changes in 1 year
          R. Green made 16 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
          Cougar Brenneman made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year

     * 27 New tickets with needsUXEval Jul/23-Aug/05

       * Writer: Add prepared models of different Table of Contents (ToC)
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135388
         + proposal: have a set of predefined settings to pick from
       * Add support for "TK" keyword for content writing
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135433
       * Insert image location points to AppData\Roaming\LibreOfficeDev\4\user\
         gallery with a fresh profile
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135474

       * Many comments to make the Tabbed interface the default
         + people are not aware of the notebookbar at all
         + like the idea (Thorsten)
           + perhaps enable it for new installs only?
         + good to avoid asking users on first start (Heiko)
         + have many variants, why so many? (Caolan)
           + only 2 serious: tabbed + tabbed compact (Heiko)
           + the others are way different
         + too many interfaces of the notebookbar (Ilmari)
         + could we hide most of that as experimental? (Thorsten)
           + too many choices are not ideal
           + support flipping the default at some stage
           + watch what the competition does
         + more UI: via extensions? (Heiko)
           + prefer to avoid extensions, just pick a single notebookbar (Caolan)
           + would make it clear what to switch to from menus (Miklos)
         + wish: type into an input field, search as you type (Heiko)
AI: make a decision on what notebookbar variant to promote (Heiko)
    + comments please at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 8(+6) import failure, 7(+0) export failures
    + 0 coverity issues
    + 12 oss-fuzz issues, 1 crasher fix in gerrit

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.6.2
        + (+32) 1866 1834 1900 2143 2188 2094 2327 1758 1376 858 668 529 283 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.4.2
        + (-263) 3766 4029 4353 5352 6607 6857 7333 5252 3670 1638 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
        + (+237) 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
        + (+788) 788 0

    + this week: it’s a bit early to see results from 7.0
      + the crash reports are not resolved yet

* GSoC 2020 (Thorsten/Heiko)
    + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/
    + June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects
    + 6 projects accepted
    + the game is on, students are reporting more or less regularly
      + remind your students if it's not happening
    + August 31, 2020 - September 7, 2020: Mentors Submit Final Evaluations
    + saw the styles inspector, pushing some translations, that may be technical names (Olivier)
      + are these really to be translated?
      + yes, intentional (Heiko)
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/99983
        + open question, though
      + Olivier will talk to the mentors
      + style editor already have a presentation string (Miklos)
    + things are on track (Thorsten)

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week      1 month      3 months    12 months
                  open      93(-60)     198(-13)     202(-10)     210(-10)
               reviews     526(-190)   1870(-2)     4776(70)    20215(-423)
                merged     449(-19)    1912(-193)   5581(9)     19527(-494)
             abandoned      20(-8)       86(5)       260(-2)     1009(-39)
           own commits     298(30)     1253(-160)   3813(-28)   15848(-150)
        review commits      69(-39)     322(-31)    1166(5)      4580(-41)
        contributor...   1 week       1 month      3 months     12 months
                  open       39(-7)       99(21)        99(20)      102(21)
               reviews     1296(-252)   5352(-529)   14345(280)   44185(389)
                merged       22(-29)     140(-10)      509(74)     1656(572)
             abandoned        3(-4)       41(-8)       139(6)       539(9)
           own commits       26(-46)     174(-31)      629(13)     1495(66)
        review commits        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)         0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 10(10)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 242(242)
       total 292(292)   assigned 12(12)   open 258(258)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Johnny_M made 42 patches in 1 month, and 234 patches in 1 year
          Shivam, Kumar Singh made 16 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
          LibreOfficiant made 14 patches in 1 month, and 148 patches in 1 year
          Gökay ŞATIR made 11 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
          Aditya Sahu made 6 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
          Yusuf Keten made 6 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 61 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
          nd101 made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
          srijan bhatia made 3 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 176 review comments in 1 month, and 1298 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 1380 in 1 year
          Timar, Andras made 146 review comments in 1 month, and 1433 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 864 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 860 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 1274 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 595 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 812 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1040 in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        WIP: tdf#127471: avoid font stretching for metafiles on other platform ( Vasily Melenchuk )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/90373

    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Mikaël Urankar (FreeBSD)

* Commit Access
    + None

    + Related: do people find it useful to auto-add reviewers on gerrit? (Kendy)
      + noticed: when cherry-picking commits to a vendor branch
      + people are auto-added as reviewers for those changes, but people are probaly not interested
      + is it possible to avoid this?
      + not sure if it’s configurable (Cloph)
        + probably not configurable for cherry-picks
      + could script removing of not wanted reviewer on a branch (Thorsten)

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 8 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Jul 30 13:52:43 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  60 ok:  60 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  53 ok:  49 ko:   4 fail ratio:  7.55 % break:   3 broken duration:10.47%
    master mac rel    jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master mac dbg    jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win rel    jobs:  74 ok:  74 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win dbg    jobs:  69 ok:  69 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  72 ok:  25 ko:  47 fail ratio: 65.28 % break:   3 broken duration:73.20%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 466 ok: 390 ko:  49 fail ratio: 10.52% time for ok: mean:  21 median:  22
    master gerrit plg jobs: 411 ok: 299 ko:  85 fail ratio: 20.68% time for ok: mean:  30 median:  29
    master gerrit win jobs: 521 ok: 334 ko: 144 fail ratio: 27.64% time for ok: mean:  54 median:  54
    master gerrit mac jobs: 467 ok: 378 ko:  47 fail ratio: 10.06% time for ok: mean:  24 median:  23
    master gerrit all jobs: 461 ok: 255 ko: 159 fail ratio: 34.49% time for ok: mean:  90 median:  73
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200806.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 Killed by the kill-wrapper		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test		gerrit_windows
      3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge		gerrit_windows
      6 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export		gerrit_windows
      8 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport		gerrit_windows
      9 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export3		gerrit_windows
     12 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_windows
     14 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export2		gerrit_windows


  + more or less same as last week
    + lot of Windows-specific failures, not great
    + especially sw_ww8export2 are painful
      + looks like a crash-on-shutdown: it fails after printing “OK(…)” (Michael S)
    + perhaps could configure the crashreporter to report such failures (Stephan)
    + may be a mis-match: people build

* l10n (Sophie)
  + work is ongoing
  + reporting issues following comments from translators in weblate

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 1 (+4) open bugs, 87 total (+4)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + late proposals are still possible, if really wanted

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1002 (+7)
        + enhancements: 109  (-6)
        + needsUXEval: 7 (+3)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 13 (+0)
        + documentation:  11 (-1)
        + android:  6 (+1)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  10 (-2)


   + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
	        + LO7RC1 - LANGPACK macOS - many versions fail to recognize LibreOffice7 installation as valid on Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134607

     Old:
       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates

     Fixed:
        + Table settings and borders are not saved if checked "Embed fonts" and "Only embed fonts that are used"
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124470
	            + Thanks to Mike Kaganski


    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + Print selection doesn't print selection but whole page
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135082
            + Srijan has a patch

        + Option to auto-update Table of Contents, or question offered to do so at printing, is deable
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44448
            + enhancement
            + how an enhancement can be high severity? (Michael S)
              + severity vs priority (Ilmari)

        + Writer: Index entry in ToC should be clickable
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65463
            + enhancement


 * corrupted user profile: how to handle that? (Heiko)
     + interesting if we have steps wrt how to corrupt it (Xisco)
     + otherwise: clean the profile via safe mode

* restore quickstarter on linux (Stephan)
    + there was a gerrit change for it by someone
    + was painful: quickstarter on the desktop (Thorsten)
      + but you can also use this on servers by throwing a veto exception on shutdown, that can be useful
      + be careful with removing even that mode
    + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/06/28/results-survey-libreoffice-features/ (Heiko)
      + least used feature

 * QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +202  +13 (-142) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Timur                   25
       Xisco Faulí             14
       Julien Nabet            9
       Telesto                 9
       Dieter                  8
       Caolán McNamara         7
       Heiko Tietze            7
       Michael Stahl (CIB)     6
       Mike Kaganski           6
       QA Administrators       6

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 38
       Heiko Tietze            11
       R. Green                7
       Mike Kaganski           4
       Xisco Faulí             4
       Karl-Heinz Arkenau      3
       WhitelineNotConeccted   3
       Dieter                  2
       Florian                 2
       Justin L                2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        9
       Michael Stahl           5
       Justin Luth             3
       Budea, Áron             2
       Heiko Tietze            2
       Xisco Fauli             2
       *UNKNOWN*               1
       Adam Mizerski           1
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
       David                   1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Xisco Fauli             57
       Heiko Tietze            13
       Dieter Praas            12
       Nabet, Julien           8
       Timur                   8
       Telesto                 6
       Budea, Áron             5
       Roman Kuznetsov         5
       Amina Zahid             4
       Tomoyuki Kubota         3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 6/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 835/4575 839/4559 822/4529 815/4507 805/4474 797/4452 788/4429

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli            9
        Terrence Enger         3
        Budea, Áron            2
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Justin Luth            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 1023/5464 1027/5448 1012/5417 1005/5393 997/5359 990/5335 977/5308

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli           10
        Terrence Enger         3
        Budea, Áron            2
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Justin Luth            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1273(+4) bugs open of 10060(+34) total 17(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto               17
        Xisco Fauli            9
        Budea, Áron            2
        Terrence Enger         2
        Timur                  1
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Weghorn, Michael       1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 11(+0)
     Calc          - 3(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 13(-1)
     Linux         - 2(+1)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 385(-1)
     Calc                     - 228(+1)
     Impress                  - 146(+1)
     Crashes                  - 60(-3)
     LibreOffice              - 58(+0)
     Writer: docx filter      - 56(+1)
     Draw                     - 47(+1)
     Borders                  - 43(+0)
     UI                       - 42(-1)
     Writer: perf             - 42(+2)
     Base                     - 30(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 29(+1)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     graphics stack           - 26(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 24(+1)
     RTL                      - 23(+1)
     Chart                    - 20(+0)
     filters and storage      - 20(+0)
     BASIC                    - 16(+0)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)
     Linguistic               - 0(-1)
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