* Present: + Caolan, Heiko, Cloph, Ilmari, Miklos, Sophie, Stephan, Kendy, Thorsten, Eike, Olivier, Michael W, Michael S, Xisco, Michael M, Gabriel, Mike K, Xisco * Completed Action Items: + New committers, give them the actual permission (Cloph) + Balázs Varga and Tünde Tóth (Stephan) + only people with permission are able to do that these days, and the permission was restricted only to hostmasters (Heiko) [ Guilhem did it ] * Pending Action Items: * Tenders for budget 2020 (Miklos) + deadline is end of April + see ideas from 2018: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2018 + if you have good ideas, please add them to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020 + proposal: deadline for adding ideas to that page is 1 week from now (9th) + then we can copy them to a sheet, vote on it and rank them based on votes + deadline to have an ESC decision is 16th April + provided we can get a vote done in a week may just work out (Thorsten) + repeat the ranking / spreadsheet process? (Miklos) + will dig that out for next week (Thorsten) + interested in a bundle of UX issues (Heiko) + need someone who can guestimate things (Miklos) + key-binding bits, SmartArt + binary format for table-styles + multi-color gradient from Armin + GSOC – perhaps we know by next week (Thorsten) + recommend a few of them get estimated (Thorsten) + Reviewers – needed ? (Michael M) + traditionally solves TDF problems signing off on contracts + community people who are willing to agree something is done. + or do we fix this as we fix tendering perhaps ? + should we require this burden at this point ? + prolly not at this stage (Thorsten) + seems like a barrier. + having two contacts might help increase chances. + Do we include all the non-completed 2018 tasks ? (Michael M) + if have an idea not tendered yet (Thorsten) + can copy/paste it over to the 2020 page + already done it for 3 proposals (Michael S) + can we assume things previously suggested & not done (Caolan) + will be re-suggested & included ? + two years ago – think welding is impossible eg. (Miklos) + things have moved on a lot in 2 years. + can we copy rankings from previous time ? (Michael M) + will build that into another tab for what was voted last time. + OOXML interop. Collecting ideas from ? (Michael M) + was there an outcome there ? (Thorsten) + larger pieces etc. + inconclusive + some larger bits there eg. theming (Michael M) + should include template pieces too (Michael M) + deadline – next ESC call? (Miklos) + or have a sheet prepared for next week ? + no strong opinion (Thorsten) + people add their ideas frantically in the call + by end of ESC call next week have them in. + will crunch by end of Thursday night. + worth highlighting: mail again with subject (Thorsten) + don’t add ‘Urgent’ to the subject – it goes to moderation (Miklos) + regrettable it’s so late – but lets try to make up for it (Michael) + why is the deadline so soon? (Caolan) + budgeting 2020 needs filing by end of April (Thorsten) + need to set aside / plan money for this name + sum + why not earlier → is unclear (Michael) + TDF team bounce around ideas (Ilmari) + all ideas are welcome (Michael) + we want them in the wiki ! + need someone to guesstimate person weeks (Miklos) + anything cool to help estimate ? (Michael) + items (Ilmari) + a11y improvements + been talking to hypra wrt. a proposal (Michael) + master document improvements + finished MAR auto-updater + Google Chrome 2 factor authentication fixing. + previously ranking open to ESC attendees + members (Michael) + if people read them all & understand can rank them too (Miklos) + added a couple of items to the wiki (Xisco) * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + 7.0 status: feature freeze is last week of May + 6.4 status: 6.4.3 rc2 next week + 6.3 status: 6.3.6 rc1 next week + Remotes + Android viewer + Online * Documentation (Olivier) + New Help : No news + Helpcontent2 + More updates on Calc Function (S. Fanning) + Additions for BASIC (LibreOfficiant) + Fixes (Caolán, ohallot) + Guides + team actively updating literature * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 255(255) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months added 5(1) 47(-1) 78(0) 152(0) commented 69(-3) 284(-57) 978(15) 3013(3) removed 1(1) 32(1) 35(1) 44(0) resolved 7(1) 37(-5) 108(1) 281(1) + top 10 contributors: Xisco Faulí made 172 changes in 1 month, and 574 changes in 1 year Heiko Tietze made 161 changes in 1 month, and 1597 changes in 1 year Dieter Praas made 59 changes in 1 month, and 459 changes in 1 year Roman Kuznetsov made 47 changes in 1 month, and 353 changes in 1 year Timur made 35 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year Kainz, Andreas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 324 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 22 changes in 1 month, and 57 changes in 1 year Foote, V Stuart made 20 changes in 1 month, and 541 changes in 1 year Rizal Muttaqin made 16 changes in 1 month, and 46 changes in 1 year Kaganski, Mike made 14 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year + New tickets with needsUXEval Mar/26-Apr/02 -> * [META] Gallery rework for 7.0 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131779 * Commands related to styles miscategorized in dialog + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131760 * Character Style dropdown widget + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131761 => new * UI Close button on Table Data toolbar + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131814 * UI Select Certificate dialog shows extra info in “Issued to” column for RSA certs + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131733 * Can't undock locked toolbar (which is the case for any default toolbar) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131441 => easyhack * Infobar's closing cross button is too small, should be somewhat larger than the cross itself + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131822 * I didn't click to update. So you folks FORCE-updated & destroyed precious things!! + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129696 * UNO action to open user profile directory + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131656 => WFM, INV * UI: Placeholder bar for context dependent toolbar + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131821 * UI: Make the option for ability unlock & re position toolbars more obvious + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131817 * LIST NUMBER: Different behaviour when using Font Colour and Highlight Colour + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131785 * RemoveDirectCharFormats is useless + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131688 -> * Risk of unintended document sharing if the inserting PDF image feature is used + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131768 + Tomaz introduced the possibility to show the non-first page (Kendy) + no UI yet + might make sense to have UI to scroll to other pages * UI: Insert textbox button marked active while cursor inside textbox + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131764 * Consistent polygon tool behavior in Draw + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131758 * UI: There's no chart wizard when adding chart outside a table + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131668 * Anchor to Paragragraph: Different behaviour while dragging a fontwork a page up or down + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131685 => unconfirmed / in discussion * Who to ping wrt. Bugzilla comment / attachment problems ? (Heiko) + just poke me for attachments (Ilmari) + and poke Christian for comments * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 17(+16) import failure, 22(+20) export failures + new hardware is running, faster than the old H/W + E-mail not being sent-out, need to make an app-password + fixed an issue or two here + crashers from embedded remote links appearing / disappearing + 3 coverity issues + 9 oss-fuzz issues, no crashes + some new doc & odt crashes anyone edited the filters recently might like to look at. * Crash Reporting (Xisco) + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.4.2 + (-163) 2227 2390 2211 2476 3050 2829 2188 3301 3769 3222 2057 984 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.5.2 + (+280) 1845 1565 1167 961 635 312 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.0.3 + (-496) 8022 8518 7488 7429 8772 9464 6774 4842 419 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.1.2 + (-1178) 4166 5344 5609 3687 2052 0 + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.2.2 + (+3272) 6988 3716 0 + Crashes not resolved in 6.4.2.2 + it seems symbols weren’t uploaded + Cloph reuploaded them * GSoC 2020 (Ilmari) + April 20: deadline for review of student proposals + April 21 18:00 UTC: Deadline to submit slot requests (Org Admins enter requests) + April 22 18:00 UTC: Slot allocations are announced by Google + April 22 - 30 18:00 UTC: Orgs select the proposals to become student projects. At least 1 mentor must be assigned to each project before it can be selected. (Org Admins enter selections) + April 30 - May 4: Google Program Admins will do another review of student eligibility + May 4: Accepted GSoC 2020 students/projects are announced + if a proposal has to be ignored, poke Ilmari + adjusted schedule only affects the proposal review period and later stages * mentoring/easyhack update + reviewing patches from first contributors is much appreciated (Muhammet) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/status:open+-label:Code-Review=-1+-label:Verified=-1+-ownerin:Committers committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months open 80(15) 149(9) 162(12) 178(11) reviews 548(124) 1730(-102) 5863(183) 23411(34) merged 351(53) 1393(-32) 4479(172) 18t572(114) abandoned 23(12) 75(4) 266(-8) 984(-11) own commits 252(10) 1135(-21) 3777(83) 15285(96) review commits 104(19) 378(-9) 1272(33) 4668(52) contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months open 32(2) 75(-10) 88(-1) 90(-2) reviews 1030(184) 3686(-124) 10588(308) 37556(136) merged 32(3) 107(-13) 381(-14) 841(-99) abandoned 7(1) 56(-13) 133(-1) 525(-4) own commits 45(13) 146(-11) 446(-3) 1025(-86) review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) + easyHack statistics: needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 214(214) total 261(261) assigned 23(23) open 221(221) + top 10 contributors: Johnny_M made 16 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 patches in 1 month, and 36 patches in 1 year Pranam Lashkari made 10 patches in 1 month, and 36 patches in 1 year Steve Fanning made 10 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year LibreOfficiant made 9 patches in 1 month, and 94 patches in 1 year Weblate made 9 patches in 1 month, and 41 patches in 1 year Sophia Schröder made 6 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year Jussi Pakkanen made 5 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year Andreas Heinisch made 4 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year Buğra Kurt made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year + top 10 reviewers: Timar, Andras made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 1261 in 1 year Behrens, Thorsten made 148 review comments in 1 month, and 1332 in 1 year Michael Stahl made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 1532 in 1 year Nabet, Julien made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 2420 in 1 year Grandin, Noel made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 1197 in 1 year Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1032 in 1 year Meeks, Michael made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 928 in 1 year Kaganski, Mike made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 888 in 1 year Vajna, Miklos made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 1402 in 1 year Holešovský, Jan made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 989 in 1 year + Patches automatically abandoned: android: add share feature to the document viewer. ( Kaishu Sahu ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/74675 android: add save_as feature in the document viewer. ( Kaishu Sahu ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/75183 android: add support for other document formats in save_as and share feature. ( Kaishu Sahu ) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/76077 + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report: Jean-Louis Fuchs (Adfinis) Oleg Schelykalnov Julian Kalinowski Commit Access + None * Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten) + sleep 24 weeks + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently inactive * Jenkins / CI update (Christian) from:Thu Mar 26 13:03:10 2020 master linux rel jobs: 92 ok: 92 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master linux dbg jobs: 82 ok: 80 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master mac rel jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master mac dbg jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master win rel jobs: 114 ok: 114 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master win dbg jobs: 118 ok: 118 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master win64 dbg jobs: 118 ok: 118 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00% master gerrit lin jobs: 441 ok: 379 ko: 44 fail ratio: 9.98% time for ok: mean: 12 median: 10 master gerrit plg jobs: 392 ok: 290 ko: 63 fail ratio: 16.07% time for ok: mean: 26 median: 23 master gerrit win jobs: 450 ok: 334 ko: 85 fail ratio: 18.89% time for ok: mean: 42 median: 39 master gerrit mac jobs: 444 ok: 374 ko: 40 fail ratio: 9.01% time for ok: mean: 24 median: 21 master gerrit all jobs: 399 ok: 253 ko: 102 fail ratio: 25.56% time for ok: mean: 50 median: 43 + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200402.html + tests that failed more tha twice in last seven days 5 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter 9 CppunitTest_sw_xhtmlexport + tb78 (windows) down because of HW failure (broken disk/raid) + quiet week * l10n (Sophie) + work as usual * Graphics architecture (Thorsten) * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture * skia / vulkan: to try it on master (Lubos) + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062 + 7 open bugs (32 total) * docx/xlsx competitive marketing issues (Miklos) + docx metabug status: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128194 6 open bugs (0) + xlsx metabug status: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128382 4 open bugs (0) * Wrong text highlight color when export document to doc/docx (Heiko) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125268 + MSO allows "shading" with any color and "highlighting" with 15 colors only; LibO highlighting corresponds to MSO's shading + http://zolnaitamas.blogspot.com/2015/03/word-compatible-text-highlighting-in.html + Help: "Microsoft Office has two character attributes similar to LibreOfficeDev character background. Select the appropriate attribute (highlighting or shading) which you would like to use during export to Microsoft Office file formats." => documentation issue + Solution #1a: Use highlighting (WFM/NAB) - LibO character background might get replaced => the issue in this ticket + Solution #1b: Use shading - not intuitive for MSO users (paragraph > theme colors), in particular on round trip - default for the export until 5.0 but replaced with highlighting then (tools > options > load/save > char highlighting) - changing defaults back and forth is not good - improve help - patch has been submitted by Tamaz (c26) but reverted (hc53) + Solution #2: Introduce shading in LibO - unclear use case besides compatibility, confuses users (c34) - could extend the palette widget (c45,46) + Solution #3: Special palette activated per compatibility flag - another patch by Tamaz (c21) - cripples LibreOffice while MSO may change at any time - code needed as the new palette is offered now unconditionally + Solution #4: analyze the document and warn the user when using a not supported feature (if the file was opened as doc/x) or when saving - might be a long list and need some time to compile + current situation: the new default from Tamas Z is reverted + Word UI is not that obscure anymore (Heiko) + trade-off: + save to shading: no data loss, but not a highlight anymore + save to highlight: no switch to shading + no strong opinion (Micheal S) + ideal: do both in Writer, like Word (Kendy) + agree – always have problems if format is different (Caolan) + means fewer highlighting colors but can prolly live with + perhaps put it on the tendering list. + suggest flip the default as Tamas Z did (Miklos) + agree having shading (Heiko) + short-term hidden option ? (Thorsten) + option is already there but complaints wrt. finds it (Miklos) + trade-off of MS Office usability vs. data-less => decision – switch back to not loosing data AI: do this (Miklos) => add to tender list having compatible highlighting + naming of compat palette ? (Heiko) + same colors as HTML, don’t have a strong dislike => naming is a UX topic Heiko to pick a name. * Test BBB for ESC meetings (Xisco) - Jitsi always problematic. Even with new adjustments ( Android app & chromium ) - Specially when many people in the call, like today - Board tested BBB in one meeting and it seems it went well - Would like to suggest the same for ESC meeting - Opinions ? + several improvements being pushed upstream as we speak (Ilmari) + people were waiting for this for years + not a great moment to change + any other instance would need somebody to admin the room (Thorsten) + anyone else has issues? (Cloph) + it’s working (Ilmari, Miklos) + mobile was problematic (Kendy) + using desktop browser now instead + massive lag sometimes (Michael M) + problems with Firefox and mobile apps (Cloph) + perhaps fixed with better VM recently (Thorsten) + it’s improving, even from Firefox (Thorsten) * QA update (Xisco) + Please help flesh out the monthly reports: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief + UNCONFIRMED: 753 (+41) + enhancements: 104 (+7) + needsUXEval: 3 (-2) + haveBackTrace: 1 (+0) + needsDevAdvice: 11 (+0) + documentation: 22 (+0) + android: 7 (-1) + iOS: 0 (+0) + Online: 12 (+1) + Most pressing bugs: New: [None] Old: + Notarize LibreOffice builds so that it launches without warnings on macOS 10.15 Catalina + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126409 + Cloph? + Opening ODS file rise Incorrect Format exception. Opened well with OpenOffice 4.1.3 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116079 + regression from the fastparser gsoc work from 2016 + Mohammed is no longer around, Julien is asking for tips + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597 + Thorsten looking at it + Save-As behavior on MacOS Catalina + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126638 + not happening for everyone + New high severity bugs of the week: + Change docs to explain how to handle and remove direct formatting + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106195 + Documentation issue. Olivier ? + Freeze/hang after clicking Cancel in the Chart Wizard (with a large range of data selected) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131716 + Patch in gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/91553 + Skia rendering (Vulkan or Raster) crash when attempting to dragging a few columns of data + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131721 + already fixed, thanks Lubos + FILESAVE: LibreOffice embeds fonts defined in styles (e.g. CJK and CTL fonts) but arent used in the document + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65353 + Timur suggests to revert the commit + Input from Tomaz is needed * QA stats + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html +210 -50 (-153) overall) many thanks to the top bug squashers: Timur 17 Xisco Faulí 16 Aron Budea 10 QA Administrators 10 Julien Nabet 9 Heiko Tietze 7 NISZ LibreOffice Team 7 Dieter 6 Eike Rathke 5 Rizal Muttaqin 5 + top 10 bugs reporters: Telesto 26 Kenneth Hanson 7 NISZ LibreOffice Team 6 Oleg Shchelykalnov 6 Kevin Suo 4 Dieter 3 Eyal Rozenberg 3 Jim Raykowski 3 Regina Henschel 3 Timur 3 + top 10 bugs fixers: Nabet, Julien 5 Luboš Luňák 4 Rizal Muttaqin 4 Xisco Faulí 4 Rathke, Eike 3 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2 Heiko Tietze 2 Jim Raykowski 2 McNamara, Caolán 2 Mehrbrodt, Samuel 2 + top 10 bugs confirmers: Xisco Faulí 28 Dieter Praas 17 *UNKNOWN* 12 Nabet, Julien 11 Heiko Tietze 8 Timur 6 Brinzing, Oliver 5 Telesto 4 Weghorn, Michael 4 Budea, Áron 3 * Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"): + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI 6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0) 5.4 : 2/41 - 4 % (+0) 5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0) 5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0) 5.1 : 1/36 - 2 % (+0) 5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0) 4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0) 4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0) 4.2 : 1/133 - 0 % (+0) 4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (-1) 4.0 : 3/82 - 3 % (+0) old : 6/245 - 2 % (+0) * Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected' + more accurate - down to a single commit. + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy + 715/4104 719/4091 710/4070 708/4049 705/4029 707/4002 702/3978 done by: Xisco Faulí 7 Budea, Áron 2 Mehrbrodt, Samuel 1 * Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected' + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS + 892/4954 895/4940 885/4918 885/4897 882/4876 886/4850 881/4824 done by: Xisco Faulí 8 Budea, Áron 2 toplyricssite 1 * all bugs tagged with 'regression' + 1136(-2) bugs open of 9479(+15) total 1(-1) high prio. done by: Xisco Faulí 8 Dieter Praas 2 Timur 2 Budea, Áron 1 Benes, Luke 1 Mehrbrodt, Samuel 1 Telesto 1 * ~Component count net * high severity regressions + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E Calc - 1(-1) by OS: All - 1(-1) Linux - 0(+0) Mac OS X - 0(+0) Windows - 0(+0) * ~Component count net * all regressions + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i Writer: other - 316(+6) Calc - 216(-1) Impress - 134(+0) LibreOffice - 67(-2) Writer: docx filter - 64(-1) Draw - 45(+0) UI - 40(+0) Borders - 39(+0) Writer: perf - 37(+0) Crashes - 35(+2) Base - 34(+0) Writer: doc filter - 28(-3) Writer: other filter - 28(+0) graphics stack - 28(+0) RTL - 24(+1) Chart - 23(+1) Printing and PDF export - 22(+1) filters and storage - 22(+0) BASIC - 17(+0) framework - 2(+0) Installation - 1(+0) sdk - 1(+0) Extensions - 0(-1) _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice