Hi Michael, Am 26-Oct-18 um 10:45 schrieb Michael Meeks: > Hi Armin, > > Is there a good reason why - when you are in a slide - and you click > inside a text box to edit; the frame is not selected such that you > cannot see it, or grab its handles, or resize / move it around easily ? > even being aware it is there is not trivial. > > The behavior here is somewhat unexpected and unfamiliar to me. Of > course after some years of suffering (a bit at least) - I happen to know > that in order to re-position the text it is necessary to click around > above the top-most text - trying to guess where the hit-area is in order > to select the text frame, and then you can move it around but ... ;-) > Empirically this is not true for most people - some are not good at > guessing the location of invisible frames. You can just press ESC - that will go from TextEdit to ObjectSelected. ...and then RETURN again to go back to TextEdit (and CTRL+RETURN to go to the next TextBox BTW) > > Is there any particularly good reason for that ? I hate to see > customers complain about this ;-) and presumably the fix is not terribly > hard, but ... I thought you might have some insight into the historic > thinking here ! =) There was - the EditEngine was the last part in Draw/Impress that *had* to paint to OutDev directly in EditMode - no Buffering, no Overlay. A very special, exceptional state to be in. This is internally gone for a while with using 'TextEdit on the Overlay' (grep for log). So now it would be possible to cleanup these 'special state' stuff and offer thje handles/frame just in parallell to TextEdit. Just tell me when you have budget for this :-) > > Thanks ! > > Michael. You're welcome! alg -- ALG (PGP Key: EE1C 4B3F E751 D8BC C485 DEC1 3C59 F953 D81C F4A2) _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice