----- Original Message ----- > From: "Niccolò Belli" <darkbasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: lartc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Linux Networking Developer Mailing List" <netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:13:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Announce] LARTC wiki available > > Il 29/12/2011 17:19, Hagen Paul Pfeifer ha scritto: > > But I don't like the idea to outhouse the existing wiki. Why two > > wikis? > > Because if you need an invite to edit something then it isn't a wiki > anymore, for example. > > > > What happened with the wiki server if you leave the university? > > This isn't a problem, because relocating would be as simple as doing > a > database dump. Releasing dumps publicly wouldn't be a problem too. > Also, > there is no reason to keep using my servers when better alternatives > arise. I created the wiki in a dedicated server because I didn't find > viable alternatives (unlike for the mailing list) and considering the > few feedbacks I received hopefully doing something tangible would > create > more interest: I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks there > isn't enough documentation for the *end user*. > > > So maybe the user > > restriction on linuxfoundation.org should be changed? > > Yes, IMHO. > > > https://www.wiki.kernel.org/. > > It seems a wiki for a kernel hacker, not for the end user. > > P.S. > Feedbacks are welcome, if there is no interest at all maybe we should > just discard the idea after all. > > <snip> I can certainly concur that there is a lack of end user documentation. I have found the net devs extremely helpful and am deeply grateful for their support but I do sometimes chuckle because the documentation and the responses are written from such a developer's context. Of course, that is entirely expected and I don't mean the least bit of disrespect; I stand in complete awe of the net devs. But the needs and perspectives of net devs and system engineers/admins are very different and rightly so. So, I'd love to see a hybrid environment where we have the best of both worlds (but where sys admin types don't feel completely lost and overwhelmed). Thanks, all - John -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe lartc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html