Dear folks, finally i found something weird after i foolishly try to lower parent rate. i set parent class rate and ceil to 40kbit while children rate i set to 10kbit and ceil to 100kbit i check the statistic and i couldnt find parent details and rate, missing.. is this usual ? before i did this foolish thing, statistic for parent such as rate is exist.. Help me analyze this .. Regards, Rio Martin. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .