On Fre, 16 Mai 2003, David Boreham wrote: >Sounds like you need something which allows each flow to >burst for a short time, but throttles long-lived connections. He needs quite the opposite: P2P tools receive many small packets from everywhere. Those many packets clog the connection and need to be throttled BEFORE they cross the bottleneck of your uplink. (I'm aware that's not really possible on a standard DSL connection) Long-lived (TCP-) connections are good, since they can be easily shaped to any bandwidth you like. cu Arvid (also looking for the p2p-killing-silver-bullet) -- in bunten Bildern wenig Klarheit, viel Irrtum und ein Fünkchen Wahrheit (Johann Wolfgang v. Goethe)