Chris, As far as I know, the iproute package is simply misnamed. The upstream for the "incorrectly" named package is the iproute2 distribution from Alexey Kuznetsov. -Martin : i have both packages round, what are the diffs : iproute2 justa follow on too iproute? : : Chris K Ellsworth : : _______________________________________________ : LARTC mailing list / LARTC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ : -- Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe, Inc. --- mabrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx