Giles, : I think I'll use htbinit, seems the most understandable. Seems a waste : that people with lots of experience who are very into this stuff don't : compile all the findings into a generic script(s) with parameters that : any newbie can configure and benefit from. The problem is a complex one. If you have thoughts or suggestions about how a script can be flexibly adapted to solve the problem, your voice is welcome. Wondershaper is an excellent example of a traffic control solution to a niche problem. It doesn't however address a more complex scenario. Your reasoning is exactly why wondershaper, cbq.init, htb.init, and my own lousy htb-script [1] exist. I'm sure there are others. People have vastly different needs for subdividing their bandwidth, hence the varied scripts for dividing bandwidth. Frankly, I believe that tcng [2] will allow people to write and share traffic control solutions in a much friendlier way than can be accomplished directly with tc. So, once again, I recommend that anybody starting to use traffic control under linux today start with tcng. It provides a more intuitive system for describing traffic control structures than raw tc commands. And, not only is it more intuitive, but tcng removes the repetitive and arcane from the configuration. If you make a traffic control solution which solves a general problem or a class of problem, document it and post it somewhere, so the world can benefit from your experience. Anyway, good luck with htb.init. It should be able to meet most of your needs. -Martin [1] http://linux-ip.net/htb-script [2] http://tcng.sourceforge.net/ -- Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe, Inc. --- mabrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx