And for those wondering why I'd care to have RED instead of basic SFQ (although GRED might handle this as I'd like it to), see: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3RbzYw9RPU4:www-users.cs.umn.edu/~mhasan/finalpres.ppt+gred+queue&hl=en Scroll down to about the 1/3 mark or search 'red vs. tail drop'. Its a converted powerpoint presentation (from: http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~mhasan/finalpres.ppt) Remember that Google allows you to view PPT and PDFs as HTML as above so searches are more thorough now. -- Michael T. Babcock CTO, FibreSpeed Ltd. (Hosting, Security, Consultation, Database, etc) http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/