Hi, What is still unclear to me is when the http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/~julian/#routes patches are needed. What do they do exactly? Thanks in advance, -- Laurens van Alphen -----Original Message----- From: Ard van Breemen [mailto:ard@telegraafnet.nl] Sent: vrijdag 5 juli 2002 19:32 To: lartc@mailman.ds9a.nl Cc: HOWTO@ds9a.nl Subject: "Bug" in howto 4.2.1 Split access and other advice Hi, http://lartc.org/HOWTO//cvs/2.4routing/html/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.ht ml I am not sure who wrote this part or what it was based upon, but since I am working a lot longer now with ip rules, I think I want to add some stuff: The example 4.2.1 refers to the picture above, and does a plain ip rule add from .... table .... The problem with the exampe is that if you connect from the inside (local network) to your if1 ip or if2 ip, that in this example the replies to the local-network are going out if1 or if2... That is not what you want. If we carefully study the ip rule set, we see the first number. This number is the priority, and if you use this priority number in your rule command, it will insert it in the rule list after the rule with the same or lower priority. I am using this to differentiate between known routing, and default routing. So first we set up the link local routing (the things you can reach directly). Actually you don't have to do a thing for that, except setting up the interface. List your local routing to understand: ip route show table main Then we put the default routing into table default. And between the main and the default rule we put rules that differentiate the default routing per provider. example: ############################################################ # set up table main by upping the interfaces ifup eth0 # local net ifup eth1 # provider 1 ifup eth2 # provider 2 # Now set up the default routes in a failover fashion, with the # most important route first(f.i. gw-provider1): ip route add default via gw-provider1 table default # Secondary route when the first gw fails: ip route append default via gw-provider2 table default # (The append is needed because else the routes will clash) # So we have a table with two default routes wich will failover # for eachother (takes about 10 minutes in default config) # We now have a simple failover, which for most of us will not # work, since most providers will have src-ip filtering. # We are going to fix that now: ip route add default via gw-provider1 table rt-provider1 ip route add default via gw-provider2 table rt-provider2 # We now have 2 tables each with a single different default gw. # They are not used, that is what we are going to solve now: ip rule add from ip-eth1 table rt-provider1 prio 32766 ip rule add from ip-eth2 table rt-provider2 prio 32766 # That's it. ############################################################ So let's think about it, and look at it: ard@erwin(slave):~$ /sbin/ip rule list 0: from all lookup local 32766: from all lookup main 32766: from <someip> lookup <sometable> 32767: from all lookup default This is not what we did above, but it is a rule list from a working environment (does www.telegraaf.nl ring a bell?). What we should have seen was this: /sbin/ip rule list 0: from all lookup local 32766: from all lookup main 32766: from <ip-eth1> lookup rt-provider1 32766: from <ip-eth2> lookup rt-provider2 32767: from all lookup default The main difference with the example in the document is: - We do *not* have a default route in main - We *have* default routes in the default table - We have rules *after* main, not before main So what is the catch: The only catch is that if you do not have point-to-point connections with your provider, but a /24 for example, then requests coming in from provider2 for the ip-eth1, will go out from your eth2 and not from your eth1. This might be a problem if your /24 is filtered by your ISP. The solution to that is the essence of this story: move the calling of your default route tables from the rules to the last possible moment. So to fix the catch you get two more routing tables: (With a provider3 added for clarity) ############################################################ ip route add net-provider2/24 via gw-provider1 table use-gw-provider1 ip route add net-provider3/24 via gw-provider1 table use-gw-provider1 ip rule add from ip-eth1 table use-gw-provider1 prio 32765 ip route add net-provider1/24 via gw-provider2 table use-gw-provider2 ip route add net-provider3/24 via gw-provider2 table use-gw-provider2 ip rule add from ip-eth2 table use-gw-provider2 prio 32765 ip route add net-provider1/24 via gw-provider3 table use-gw-provider3 ip route add net-provider2/24 via gw-provider3 table use-gw-provider3 ip rule add from ip-eth3 table use-gw-provider3 prio 32765 ############################################################ I hope this makes some sense, and I hope it also is clear that this is only needed for the link-local network of your provider only if it is filtered! Next thing: I was talking about failover earlier: If a gateway is not available (ie, it does not reply to arps), linux will think it is dead within a few minutes, and use the other gateway. But only if it reaches the default table. It reaches that, when it does not have a clue of the outgoing src-ip yet. So if an application makes a connection to a website, and the first gateway is considered dead, it will connect to the website using the second gateway, and therefore bind to ip-eth2. Last thing: this failover thingie can also be a "loadbalanced" thingie as explained in "4.2.2 Load balancing". However: due to bugs in the equalizeing code, I recommend against it. Somewhere inside the kernel it cannot clearly come up with a route, which results in a lot of "cannot happen 777". Next to that: the usage counts of the devices are not correctly incremented and decremented. You have to be very careful and craft an extra non-multipath route before, then remove the existing multi-path route, before bringing down a network device. Else it ends up in an endless "device still in use, waiting". And you will not be able to use the device anymore until you reset some sense into the machine... -- _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/