I found lots of stuff in a bunch of Windows 2000 documentation and in abook about Windows 2000 VPNs by Thaddeus Fortenberry. Ziegler's Linux Firewalls Second Edition barely mentions VPNs in a brief chapter in the back of his book. I stumbled across the HOWTO that had the sample VPN commands and my jaw dropped - I've been looking for that capability for months! I don't even remember where that HOWTO lives any more, but that's OK because I copied it so I would always have it handy. What happens is, the two tunnel endpoints exchange some TCP port 1723 messages to handshake with eachother and then they have a conversation using IP protocol 47, also named GRE. So the whole thing, handshake and authentication, is called PPTP. What I don't understand is, how does the security work? I think the two tunnel endpoints are supposed to authenticate eachother with the TCP port 1723 packets, but what do the Linux systems use for a shared secret? I would use this all over the place if I felt good about its security. - Greg -----Original Message----- From: Michael T. Babcock [mailto:mbabcock@fibrespeed.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:28 AM To: LARTC List Subject: Re: [LARTC] Gre Tunneling Problem That's something I haven't seen well mentioned elsewhere; like in the Linux options for GRE tunneling. Anyone know where else this association should be mentioned? On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:44:31PM -0600, Greg Scott wrote: > Yes - they are both the same. GRE is the name of the IP protocol used > for exchanging messages. PPTP - Point to Point Tunneling Protocol. -- Michael T. Babcock CTO, FibreSpeed Ltd. (Hosting, Security, Consultation, Database, etc) http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://ds9a.nl/lartc/