Re: About preemption timer

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2013-12-17 12:31, Arthur Chunqi Li wrote:
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 2013-12-17 10:32, Arthur Chunqi Li wrote:
>>>> Hi Jan and Paolo,
>>>>
>>>> I've tried to use preemption timer in KVM to trap vcpu regularly, but
>>>> there's something unexpected. I run a VM with 4 vcpus and give them
>>>> the same preemption timer value (e.g. 1000000) with all bits set
>>>> (activate/save bits), then reset the value in preemption time-out
>>>> handler.
>>>>
>>>> Thus I expected these vcpus trap regularly in some special turns. But
>>>> I found that when the VM is not busy, some vcpus are trapped much less
>>>> frequently than others. In Intel SDM, I noticed that preemption timer
>>>> is only related to TSC, and I think all the vcpus should trap in a
>>>> similar frequency.
>>>>
>>>> Could u help me explain this phenomenon?
>>>
>>> Are you on a CPU that has non-broken preemption timer support? Anything
>>> prior Haswell is known to tick with arbitrary frequencies.
>>
>> My CPU is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU  E5620  @ 2.40GHz.
>
> Hmm, this one seems unaffected. Didn't find a "specification update".
> Just like Paolo asked: Your original test case passes?
>
>>
>> Besides, what do you mean by arbitrary frequencies?
>
> On older CPUs, the tick rate of the preemption timer does not correlate
> with the TSC, definitely not in the way the spec defined.
>
> Back to your original question: Are we talking about native use of the
> preemption timer via a patched KVM or nested use inside a KVM virtual
> machine?

It is about the native use. I think it may due to the scheduling. When
vcpu is scheduled out of pcpu, will the preemption timer work still?

Oh, another problem, I use the released kernel 3.11, not the latest
one. Does this matter?

Arthur

>
> Jan
>
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Peking University
Beijing, China
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