Re: binding/unbinding devices to vfio-pci

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On 07/02/2013 05:13 PM, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:


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From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@xxxxxxxxxx]
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To: Yoder Stuart-B08248
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Subject: Re: binding/unbinding devices to vfio-pci

On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 14:15 +0000, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:
Alex,

I'm trying to think through how binding/unbinding of devices will
work with VFIO for platform devices and have a couple of questions
about how vfio-pci works.

When you bind a device to vfio-pci, e.g.:
# echo 1102 0002 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/new_id

...I understand that the echo into 'new_id' tells the
vfio pci driver that it now handles the specified PCI ID.

But now there are 2 drivers that handle that PCI ID,
the original host driver and vfio-pci.   Say that
you hotplug a PCI device that matches that ID.   Which of
the 2 drivers are going to get bound to the device?

Also, if you unbind a device from vfio-pci and want to
bind it again to the normal host driver you would just
echo the full device info into the 'bind' sysfs file
for the host driver, right?

     echo 0000:06:0d.0 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/...

Hi Stuart,

The driver binding interface is far from perfect.  In your scenario
where you've added the ID for one device, then hotplug another device
with the same ID, the results are indeterminate.  Both vfio-pci and the
host driver, assuming it's still loaded, can claim the device, it's just
a matter of which gets probed first.

Generally that window should be very short though.  To bind a device,
the user should do:

1) echo ssss:bb:dd.f > /sys/bus/pci/devices/ssss:bb:dd.f/driver/unbind
2) echo vvvv dddd > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/new_id
3) echo ssss:bb:dd.f > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/bind
4) echo vvvv dddd > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/remove_id

There are actually a number of ways you can do this and the default
autoprobe behavior really makes step 3) unnecessary as the driver core
will probe any unbound devices as soon as a new_id is added to vfio-pci.
That can be changed by:

# echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers_autoprobe

But then we have to worry about races from any devices that might have
been hotplugged in the interim.

But, even apart from hot-plugged devices, what about the device
we just unbound?  There are now 2 host drivers that can handle the
device when the autoprobe happens.  Is it just luck that vfio-pci
is the one that gets the device?

Probably the best way of handling this would be to disallow autobinding for vfio in general. Then the 'normal' driver would be bound to the device, and vfio must be enabled via manual binding.
Much like it is today.

Cheers,

Hannes
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