On 08/14/2012 11:04 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 2012-08-14 16:53, Cole Robinson wrote: >> On 08/13/2012 03:31 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> >>>> On 2012-08-13 15:58, Avi Kivity wrote: >>>>> On 08/13/2012 04:27 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for pushing this forward! Hopefully this will finally kill off >>>>>> qemu-kvm.git for good. >>>>> >>>>> No, it won't. vfio requires a 3.6 kernel, which we cannot assume anyone >>>>> has. We'll need the original device assignment code side-by-side. >>>> >>>> ...which is on my to-do list for 1.3. >>> >>> Is there a deprecation plan for the old device assignment code? >>> >>> I'm not really against the idea of requiring a new kernel for new >>> features. >>> >>> From a Fedora/OpenSUSE point of view, would supporting old kernels be a >>> requirement to stop shipping qemu-kvm.git over qemu.git? >>> >> >> Speaking as a Fedora maintainer, compatibility with old kernels isn't that >> important to us, provided the functionality of the new way is comparable to >> the old way. >> >> As far as switching over to qemu.git, I assume there will eventually be a day >> when the fork would 'end' and qemu-kvm would stop getting its own releases, >> which is when we'd switch. Maybe that assumption is wrong or over simplifying >> the trade offs, but if merge work is ongoing I don't see a very compelling >> reason to switch. > > If you sit and wait, you may find out on that specific day that someone > forget to port over feature X and Y, and now QEMU does not fit your > needs and qemu-kvm is dead. > My head isn't entirely in the sand here, I've watched the patches go by and feel pretty confident that you and co. wouldn't drop qemu-kvm if there was something missing that left qemu.git substantially lacking, at least not without announcing it clearly. I know certain defaults will change and certain cli options will go away but that just requires user education. And qemu-kvm won't really 'die', the code isn't going to disappear. If we switch to qemu.git and discover some vital piece is missing, we can temporarily carry the relevant qemu-kvm bits and try to get the issue resolved upstream. If upstream doesn't want to change, then we are back to user education. - Cole -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html