Re: [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration

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On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 04:00:54PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-08-05 16:03, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 05:00:37PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 08/05/2012 04:48 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>  >>
> >>>>>> During guest boot up, some of these jump keys will change, no?  Does
> >>>>>> this mean a stop_machine() or equivalent?  I'm worried about real-time
> >>>>>> response or one guest being affected by another.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, SW enable bit changes during boot. The jump label triggerable by a
> >>>>> guest are rate limited though. So stop machine will not happen more then
> >>>>> once per second even with malicious guests.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not talking about a malicious guest, just a guest that is booting up
> >>>> normally but kills real-time response for another guest (or just induces
> >>>> a large hiccup in a non-real-time guest, but we don't guarantee anything
> >>>> for those).
> >>>>
> >>>> We don't support real-time guests now, but Jan has plans.
> >>>>
> >>> For such setup jump labels have to be compiled out from the kernel
> >>> completely. Anything that calls stop_machine does not play well with
> >>> real time.
> >>>
> >>> Guest can cause stop machine on boot today already by detecting PMU and
> >>> configuring NMI watchdog.
> >>
> >> The host can prevent this by leaving disabling the guest pmu.  But
> >> disabling jump labels for real-time kernels may be acceptable too.  We
> >> can probably to it at run time by forcing the slow path at all times.
> > Yes, it is possible to add module option that will force slow path if
> > needed.
> 
> Should I write a patch or will you? Having host-side stop_machine due to
> such common guest operations is indeed a no-go for RT.
> 
Do we support RT now? The operation are definitely not common.

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			Gleb.
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