On 21 July 2012 07:57, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@xxxxxx> wrote: > On 2012-07-20 21:14, Peter Maydell wrote: >> I'm sure this isn't the only x86ism in the KVM generic source >> files. However the thing I'm specifically trying to do is >> nuke all the uses of kvm_irqchip_in_kernel() in common code, > > No, "irqchip in kernel" is supposed to be a generic concept. We will > also have it on Power. Not sure what your plans are for ARM, maybe it > will always be true there. I agree that "irqchip in kernel?" is generic (though as you'll see below there's disagreement about what that ought to mean or imply). "irq0_override" though seems to me to be absolutely x86 specific. > That said, maybe there is room for discussion about what it means for > the general KVM code and its users if the irqchip is in the kernel. Two > things that should be common for every arch: > - VCPU idle management is done inside the kernel The trouble is that at the moment QEMU assumes that "is the irqchip in kernel?" == "is VCPU idle management in kernel", for instance. For ARM, VCPU idle management is in kernel whether we're using the kernel's model of the VGIC or not. Alex tells me PPC is the same way. It's only x86 that has tied these two concepts together. The reason I want to get rid of common-code uses of kvm_irqchip_in_kernel() is because I think they're all similar to this -- the common code is using the check as a proxy for something else, and it should be directly asking about that something else. The only bits of code that should care about "is the irqchip in kernel?" are: * target-specific device/machine setup code which needs to know which apic/etc to instantiate * target-specific x86 code which has this weird synchronous IRQ delivery model for irqchip-not-in-kernel (Obviously I might have missed something, I'm flailing around trying to understand this code :-)) > - in-kernel KVM helpers like vhost or VFIO can inject IRQs directly > > The latter point implies that irqfd is available and that interrupt > routes from virtual IRQs (*) (like the one associated with an irqfd) to > the in-kernel IRQ controller have to be established. That's pretty generic. But you can perfectly well have an in-kernel-irqchip that doesn't support irqfd -- it just means that interrupts from devices have to come in via the ioctls same as anything else. Some in-kernel helpers obviously would depend on the existence and use of a full featured in-kernel irqchip (on ARM you don't get the in kernel timer unless you have in kernel VGIC), but I don't see why the virtio code should be asking "is there an in kernel irqchip?" rather than "can I do irqfd routing?" or whatever the question is it actually wants to ask. (In fact the virtio code probably needs to do something more complex anyway: you could perfectly well have a system where there is a full-featured irqchip in the kernel but the virtio device is on the "wrong" side of a second interrupt controller which is not in-kernel. So the actual question it needs to ask is "does the interrupt wiring in this specific machine model mean I can get and use an irqfd from where I am to the main CPU interrupt controller?" or something similar.) >> as part of trying to untangle "what irqchip model do you want" >> from other aspects of the interrupt handling model. >> >> Other than this one, there are uses in cpus.c and hw/virtio-pci.c, >> but I haven't figured out yet exactly what those bits of code >> are trying to do... > > See above for the two reasons. Thanks for the explanations. -- PMM -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html