On 02/03/12 21:15, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > [ coming back from vacation and trying to catch up ] > > On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Dave Martin wrote: > >> Just had a chat with some tools guys -- apparently, when passing register >> arguments to gcc inline asms there really isn't a guarantee that those >> variables will be in the expected registers on entry to the inline asm. >> >> If gcc reorders other function calls or other code around the inline asm >> (which it can do, except under certain controlled situations), then >> intervening code can clobber any registers in general. > > I'm hearing this argument about once every year or so for the last 8 > years. I think that the tools people are getting confused between > themselves as you may get a different interpretation of what gcc should > do depending to whom you happen to talk to. > > I did submit a bug to gcc in 2004 about this: > > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15089 > > You can see the confusion among gcc developers lurking there. > > So let's quote the relevant gcc documentation: > > -> * C Extensions:: GNU extensions to the C language family. > -> * Explicit Reg Vars:: Defining variables residing in specified registers. > > |GNU C allows you to put a few global variables into specified hardware > |registers. You can also specify the register in which an ordinary > |register variable should be allocated. > | > | * Global register variables reserve registers throughout the program. > | This may be useful in programs such as programming language > | interpreters which have a couple of global variables that are > | accessed very often. > | > | * Local register variables in specific registers do not reserve the > | registers, except at the point where they are used as input or > | output operands in an `asm' statement and the `asm' statement > | itself is not deleted. The compiler's data flow analysis is > | capable of determining where the specified registers contain live > | values, and where they are available for other uses. Stores into > | local register variables may be deleted when they appear to be > | dead according to dataflow analysis. References to local register > | variables may be deleted or moved or simplified. > | > | These local variables are sometimes convenient for use with the > | extended `asm' feature (*note Extended Asm::), if you want to > | write one output of the assembler instruction directly into a > | particular register. (This will work provided the register you > | specify fits the constraints specified for that operand in the > | `asm'.) > > -> * Local Reg Vars:: > > [...] > > | Defining such a register variable does not reserve the register; it > |remains available for other uses in places where flow control > |determines the variable's value is not live. > | > | This option does not guarantee that GCC will generate code that has > |this variable in the register you specify at all times. You may not > |code an explicit reference to this register in the _assembler > |instruction template_ part of an `asm' statement and assume it will > |always refer to this variable. However, using the variable as an `asm' > |_operand_ guarantees that the specified register is used for the > |operand. > > So, to me, the gcc documentation is perfectly clear on this topic. > there really _is_ a guarantee that those asm marked variables will be in > the expected registers on entry to the inline asm, given that the > variable is _also_ listed as an operand to the asm statement. But only > in that case. > > It is true that gcc may reorder other function calls or other code > around the inline asm and then intervening code can clobber any > registers. Then it is up to gcc to preserve the variable's content > elsewhere when its register is used for other purposes, and restore it > when some inline asm statement is referring to it. > > And if gcc does not do this then it is buggy. Version 3.4.0 of gcc was > buggy. No other gcc versions in the last 7 years had such a problem or > the __asmeq macro in the kernel would have told us. > >> Or, to summarise another way, there is no way to control which register >> is used to pass something to an inline asm in general (often we get away >> with this, and there are a lot of inline asms in the kernel that assume >> it works, but the more you inline the more likely you are to get nasty >> surprises). > > This statement is therefore unfounded and wrong. Please direct the > tools guy who mislead you to the above gcc documentation. > The problem is not really about re-ordering functions but about implicit functions that come from the source code; for example int foo (int a, int b) { register int x __asm__("r0") = 33; register int c __asm__("r1") = a / b; /* Ooops, clobbers r0 with division function call. */ asm ("svc 0" : : "r" (x)); } There's nothing in the specification to say what happens if there's a statement in the code that causes an implicit clobber of your assembly register. The best you can do here is to never initialize asm regs until you are about to use them, but even that won't help if your register initialization code needs the help of a function call. Other common ways of exposing this weakness in the spec are TLS variables and structure copies... R. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. 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