On 11/14/2011 02:54 PM, Alex Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 18:14 -0600, Scott Wood wrote: >> What are the semantics of "desired and/or returned dma address"? > > I believe the original intention was that a user could leave dmaaddr > clear and let the iommu layer provide an iova address. The iommu api > has since evolved and that mapping scheme really isn't present anymore. > We'll currently fail if we can map the requested address. I'll update > the docs to make that be the definition. OK... if there is any desire in the future to have the kernel pick an address (which could be useful for IOMMUs that don't set VFIO_IOMMU_FLAGS_MAP_ANY), there should be an explicit flag for this, since zero could be a valid address to request (doesn't mean "clear"). >> Note that the "length of structure" approach means that ioctl numbers >> will change whenever this grows -- perhaps we should avoid encoding the >> struct size into these ioctls? > > How so? What's described here is effectively the base size. If we > later add feature foo requiring additional fields, we set a flag, change > the size, and tack those fields onto the end. The kernel side should > balk if the size doesn't match what it expects from the flags it > understands (which I think I probably need to be more strict about). The size of the struct is encoded into the ioctl number via the _IOWR() macro. If we want the struct to be growable in the future, we should leave that out and just use _IO(). Otherwise if the size of the struct changes, the ioctl number changes. This is annoying for old userspace plus new kernel (have to add compat entries to the switch), and broken for old kernel plus new userspace. >> Can we limit the IOMMU_API dependency to the IOMMU parts of VFIO? It >> would still be useful for devices which don't do DMA, or where we accept >> the lack of protection/translation (e.g. we have a customer that wants >> to do KVM device assignment on one of our lower-end chips that lacks an >> IOMMU). > > Ugh. I'm not really onboard with it given that we're trying to sell > vfio as a secure user space driver interface with iommu-based > protection. That's its main use case, but it doesn't make much sense to duplicate the non-iommu-related bits for other use cases. This applies at runtime too, some devices don't do DMA at all (and thus may not be part of an IOMMU group, even if there is an IOMMU present for other devices -- could be considered a standalone group of one device, with a null IOMMU backend). Support for such devices can wait, but it's good to keep the possibility in mind. -Scott -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
