On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > That's pretty much a blanko argument for throwing everything into the > kernel. What's next, throwing your jvm into the kernel because you like > some kernel helpers? Please don't give Ingo any funny ideas! :-) On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > We've been through this a few times - there is no reason why a tool > using the KVM ioctls should be considered close to the kernel - all > other users get away just fine staying out of tree, and that has > helped to keep the ABI stable. It's not just about the KVM ABI - it's VESA BIOS data structures, E820, serial console registers, virtio drivers, kernel utils, and perf utils. I know you don't see the benefits of integrated code base but I as a developer do. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This sounds more like you should create a libkernelutil with useful > data structures we use in the kernel for userspace programs. I'd love > to use that for a few projects, btw. It's certainly a worthwhile project for someone. I'd love to use that too. Pekka -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html