Re: Booting up an old Windows 3.1 harddisk image

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>>>>> "John" == John Stoffel <john@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

>>>>> "Avi" == Avi Kivity <avi@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Avi> On 10/18/2011 02:59 AM, John Stoffel wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> 
>>> I'm not a subscriber to the kvm mailing list, so please copy me in
>>> your replies.
>>> 
>>> I've got an old image of an i486 disk running (I think!) Windows 3.1
>>> which I want to bring up and play with, just to make sure I can use
>>> it.  
>>> 
>>> > file hda-caroline486.image 
>>> hda-caroline486.image: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP mbr;
>>> partition 1: ID=0x6, active, starthead 1, startsector 17, 254983
>>> sectors, code offset 0x33
>>> 
>>> I basically just dd'd the entire disk into a file.  I can mount it
>>> using a loop device and then examine the partitions, so I think it's
>>> fine from that viewpoint.
>>> 
>>> My server is a Debian 5.0 box, running on AMD Quad Core CPU, 8gb of
>>> RAM.  

Avi> What's the host kernel version?

John> I thought I was running the stock Debian version, but I'm actually
John> running my own 3.1.0-rc4 kernel.  A bit out of date, but I don't
John> remember seeing any major KVM breakage in the later part of the
John> 3.1-rc# series.

John>   Linux version 3.1.0-rc4-custom (john@quad) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian
John>   4.4.5-8) ) #1 SMP Wed Aug 31 12:12:32 EDT 2011

>>> I've got other KVM guests running just fine.  
>>> 
>>> So I tried to use the following to boot the image:
>>> 
>>> > sudo qemu -no-acpi -no-hpet -cpu 486 -hda hda-caroline486.image -m \
>>> 128 -vga std -vnc quad:44

Avi> No need to sudo.

Ok, didn't do it this time.  Still no luck from what I see.

>>> And I get the following in a VNC screen:
>>> 
>>> Starting SeaBIOS (version 0.5.1-20100616_222654-volta)
>>> 
>>> Booting from Hard Disk...
>>> 
>>> HIMEM: DOS XMS Driver, Version 3.07 - 02/14/92
>>> Extended Memory Specification (XMS) Version 3.0
>>> Copyright 1988-1992 Microsoft Corp.
>>> 
>>> Installed A20 handler number 2.
>>> 64K High Memory Area is available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MICROSOFT Expanded Memory Manager 386  Version 4.44
>>> Copyright Microsoft Corporation 1986, 1991
>>> 
>>> _
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And that's it.  So it looks like I'm missing a driver or something
>>> here.  Do I need to define keyboard and mouse for this sucker?  The
>>> hardware is long gone, but I think it was a Gateway.  Total guess.
>>> 

Avi> It's probably a bug in kvm.  Try collecting a complete trace as
Avi> in http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Tracing and posting it here,
Avi> maybe something will jump out.

I tried doing that, but it's huge, mostly because I've got three other
KVM sessions running.  Let me poke at the trace-command to see how I
can limit it to just a single process to make it smaller.

Avi> Also try out -no-kvm.

This doesn't exist in my version of 'qemu' or should I really be doing
something else?  I'm running:

   > qemu --version
   QEMU PC emulator version 0.12.5 (Debian 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze1),
   Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard

Oh wait, I see, I should be doing:

    > kvm -no-acpi -no-hpet -cpu 486 -hda hda-caroline486.image -m 128 -vga std -vnc quad:4
    open /dev/kvm: Permission denied
    Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support

instead.  And it looks like I don't have KVM support anyway when I run
as myself.

John> Thanks, I'll give this a try tonight when I'm home again.

Ok, so I ssh'd into home from work and now I can see it starting up,
but it's horribly slow.  Heh.  

So I then tried bumping down the memory to just 4 megs (-m 4) to see
what would happen.  No change.  

Thanks for all your help guys.
John


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