On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:17:53PM -0700, Shirley Ma wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 22:06 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 08:43:08AM -0700, Shirley Ma wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 10:10 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > Hmm. I don't yet understand. We are still doing copies into the > > per-vq > > > > buffer, and the data copied is really small. Is it about cache > > line > > > > bounces? Could you try figuring it out? > > > > > > per-vq buffer is much less expensive than 3 put_copy() call. I will > > > collect the profiling data to show that. > > > > What about __put_user? Maybe the access checks are the ones > > that add the cost here? I attach patches to strip access checks: > > they are not needed as we do them on setup time already, anyway. > > Can you try them out and see if performance is improved for you > > please? > > On top of this, we will need to add some scheme to accumulate signals, > > but that is a separate issue. > > Yes, moving from put_user/get_user to __put_user/__get_user does improve > the performance by removing the checking. I mean in practice, you see a benefit from this patch? > My concern here is whether checking only in set up would be sufficient > for security? It better be sufficient because the checks that put_user does are not effictive when run from the kernel thread, anyway. > Would be there is a case guest could corrupt the ring > later? If not, that's OK. You mean change the pointer after it's checked? If you see such a case, please holler. > > > > > > 2. How about flushing out queued stuff before we exit > > > > > > the handle_tx loop? That would address most of > > > > > > the spec issue. > > > > > > > > > > The performance is almost as same as the previous patch. I will > > > > resubmit > > > > > the modified one, adding vhost_add_used_and_signal_n after > > handle_tx > > > > > loop for processing pending queue. > > > > > > > > > > This patch was a part of modified macvtap zero copy which I > > haven't > > > > > submitted yet. I found this helped vhost TX in general. This > > pending > > > > > queue will be used by DMA done later, so I put it in vq instead > > of a > > > > > local variable in handle_tx. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > BTW why do we need another array? Isn't heads field exactly what > > we > > > > need > > > > here? > > > > > > head field is only for up to 32, the more used buffers add and > > signal > > > accumulated the better performance is from test results. > > > > I think we should separate the used update and signalling. Interrupts > > are expensive so I can believe accumulating even up to 100 of them > > helps. But used head copies are already prety cheap. If we cut the > > overhead by x32, that should make them almost free? > > I can separate the used update and signaling to see the best > performance. > > > > That's was one > > > of the reason I didn't use heads. The other reason was I used these > > > buffer for pending dma done in mavctap zero copy patch. It could be > > up > > > to vq->num in worse case. > > > > We can always increase that, not an issue. > > Good, I will change heads up to vq->num and use it. > > Thanks > Shirley To clarify: the combination of __put_user and separate signalling is giving the same performance benefit as your patch? I am mostly concerned with adding code that seems to help speed for reasons we don't completely understand, because then we might break the optimization easily without noticing. -- MST -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html