Re: KVM call minutes for Sept 21

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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 01:03:55PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 09/22/2010 12:49 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010, Chris Wright wrote about "Re: KVM call minutes for Sept 21":
>>    
>>> People keep looking for reasons to justify the cost of the effort, dunno
>>> why "because it's cool" isn't good enough ;)  At any rate, that was mainly
>>> a question of how it might be useful for production kind of environments.
>>>      
>> I gave in my previous mail a long list of examples what you might do with
>> nested virtualization, and many of them could be called "production kind of
>> enviroments".
>>    
>
> I don't think arguing about use cases is very productive.
>
> The concern is that nested VMX is invasive and presents a long term  
> maintenance burden.  There are two ways to mitigate this burden.  The  
> first is to work extra hard to make things as common as humanly possible  
> between nested VMX and nested SVM.  The second is to make sure that we  
> have an aggressive set of test cases.

This can be stated about nested virtualization support in KVM in
general. And since we need to solve this for nested SVM too I don't
think these questions should prevent the merge of nested VMX.

Okay, nested VMX is very new. I don't know the current state and quality
of the patches and the testing they have experienced. But if they are in
the same quality state as nested SVM when it was merged I think nested
VMX should not be blocked. The code should be disabled by default of
course for some time to minimize the risks. One big advantage of merging
is that Nadav has a lot more time to improve the code instead of having
to rebase it all the time.

	Joerg

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