Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: async_pf: remove support for KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS

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On 18/02/2025 15:17, Sean Christopherson wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, Nikita Kalyazin wrote:
3a7c8fafd1b42adea229fd204132f6a2fb3cd2d9 ("x86/kvm: Restrict
ASYNC_PF to user space") stopped setting KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS in
Linux guests.  While the flag can still be used by legacy guests, the
mechanism is best effort so KVM is not obliged to use it.

What's the actual motivation to remove it from KVM?  I agreed KVM isn't required
to honor KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS from a guest/host ABI perspective, but that
doesn't mean that dropping a feature has no impact.  E.g. it's entirely possible
removing this support could negatively affect a workload running on an old kernel.

Looking back at the discussion[*] where Vitaly made this suggestion, I don't see
anything that justifies dropping this code.  It costs KVM practically nothing to
maintain this code.

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241118130403.23184-1-kalyazin@xxxxxxxxxx


How old is old? :-)

Linux stopped using KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS in v5.8:

5.8 is practically a baby.  Maybe a toddler :-)

commit 3a7c8fafd1b42adea229fd204132f6a2fb3cd2d9
Author: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:   Fri Apr 24 09:57:56 2020 +0200

     x86/kvm: Restrict ASYNC_PF to user space

and I was under the impression other OSes never used KVM asynchronous
page-fault in the first place (not sure about *BSDs though but certainly
not Windows). As Nikita's motivation for the patch was "to avoid the
overhead ... in case of kernel-originated faults" I suggested we start
by simplifyign the code to not care about 'send_user_only' at all.

In practice, I don't think it's a meaningful simplification.  There are other
scenarios where KVM shouldn't inject an async #PF, so kvm_can_deliver_async_pf()
itself isn't going anywhere.

AFAICT, what Nikita actually wants is a way to disable host-side async #PF, e.g.

That's correct. Just wanted to say that the main intention was to do that for async PF user [1] where the difference in performance is noticeable (at least in my setup). I'm totally ok with the status quo in the async PF kernel. If however the mechanism to achieve that turns out to be generic, it's better to support for both, I guess.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20241118123948.4796-1-kalyazin@xxxxxxxxxx/T/

diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
index f97d4d435e7f..d461e1b5489c 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
@@ -13411,7 +13411,8 @@ bool kvm_can_do_async_pf(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
                      kvm_is_exception_pending(vcpu)))
                 return false;

-       if (kvm_hlt_in_guest(vcpu->kvm) && !kvm_can_deliver_async_pf(vcpu))
+       if ((kvm_hlt_in_guest(vcpu->kvm) || kvm_only_pv_async_pf(vcpu->kvm)) &&
+           !kvm_can_deliver_async_pf(vcpu))
                 return false;

         /*

We can keep the code around, I guess, but with no plans to re-introduce
KVM_ASYNC_PF_SEND_ALWAYS usage to Linux I still believe it would be good
to set a deprecation date.





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