On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 at 06:21, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Should we just add some flag to say "don't show this thread in this > > context"? > > Not sure I understand... Looking at is_single_threaded() above I guess > something like below should work (incomplete, in particular we need to > chang first_tid() as well). So yes, I was thinking something similar, but: > But a PF_HIDDEN sub-thread will still be visible via /proc/$pid_of_PF_HIDDEN > > > We obviously still want to see it for management purposes, > > so it's not like the thing should be entirely invisible, > > Can you explain? I was literally thinking that instead of a "hidden" flag, it would be a "self-hidden" flag. So if somebody _else_ (notably the sysadmin) does "ps" they see the kernel thread as a subthread. But when you look at your own /proc/self/task/ listing, you only see your own explicit threads. So that "is_singlethreaded()" logic works. Maybe that's just too ugly for words, and the kvm workaround is better. Linus