On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 05:46:44PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > + * 1) RSB underflow ("Intel Retbleed") > * > * Some Intel parts have "bottomless RSB". When the RSB is empty, > * speculated return targets may come from the branch predictor, > * which could have a user-poisoned BTB or BHB entry. > * > - * AMD has it even worse: *all* returns are speculated from the BTB, > - * regardless of the state of the RSB. > + * When IBRS or eIBRS is enabled, the "user -> kernel" attack is > + * mitigated by the IBRS branch prediction isolation properties, so > + * the RSB buffer filling wouldn't be necessary to protect against > + * this type of attack. > * > - * When IBRS or eIBRS is enabled, the "user -> kernel" attack > - * scenario is mitigated by the IBRS branch prediction isolation > - * properties, so the RSB buffer filling wouldn't be necessary to > - * protect against this type of attack. > + * The "user -> user" attack is mitigated by RSB filling on context > + * switch. user->user SpectreRSB is also mitigated by IBPB, so RSB filling is unnecessary when IBPB is issued. Also, when an appication does not opted-in for IBPB at context switch, spectre-v2 for that app is not mitigated, filling RSB is only a half measure in that case. Is RSB filling really serving any purpose for userspace?