On 12/3/23 03:44, Huang, Kai wrote: ... >> It doesn't need perfect accuracy. But how do we know it's not going to >> go, for instance, chase a bad pointer? >> >>> + if (tdx_module_status != TDX_MODULE_INITIALIZED) >>> + return false; >> >> As an example, what prevents this CPU from observing >> tdx_module_status==TDX_MODULE_INITIALIZED while the PAMT structure is >> being assembled? > > There are two types of memory order serializing operations between assembling > the TDMR/PAMT structure and setting the tdx_module_status to > TDX_MODULE_INITIALIZED: 1) wbvind_on_all_cpus(); 2) bunch of SEAMCALLs; > > WBINVD is a serializing instruction. SEAMCALL is a VMEXIT to the TDX module, > which involves GDT/LDT/control registers/MSRs switch so it is also a serializing > operation. > > But perhaps we can explicitly add a smp_wmb() between assembling TDMR/PAMT > structure and setting tdx_module_status if that's better. ... and there's zero documentation of this dependency because ... ? I suspect it's because it was never looked at until Tony made a comment about it and we started looking at it. In other words, it worked by coincidence. >>> + for (i = 0; i < tdmr_list->nr_consumed_tdmrs; i++) { >>> + unsigned long base, size; >>> + >>> + tdmr_get_pamt(tdmr_entry(tdmr_list, i), &base, &size); >>> + >>> + if (phys >= base && phys < (base + size)) >>> + return true; >>> + } >>> + >>> + return false; >>> +} >>> + >>> +/* >>> + * Return whether the memory page at the given physical address is TDX >>> + * private memory or not. Called from #MC handler do_machine_check(). >>> + * >>> + * Note this function may not return an accurate result in rare cases. >>> + * This is fine as the #MC handler doesn't need a 100% accurate result, >>> + * because it cannot distinguish #MC between software bug and real >>> + * hardware error anyway. >>> + */ >>> +bool tdx_is_private_mem(unsigned long phys) >>> +{ >>> + struct tdx_module_args args = { >>> + .rcx = phys & PAGE_MASK, >>> + }; >>> + u64 sret; >>> + >>> + if (!platform_tdx_enabled()) >>> + return false; >>> + >>> + /* Get page type from the TDX module */ >>> + sret = __seamcall_ret(TDH_PHYMEM_PAGE_RDMD, &args); >>> + /* >>> + * Handle the case that CPU isn't in VMX operation. >>> + * >>> + * KVM guarantees no VM is running (thus no TDX guest) >>> + * when there's any online CPU isn't in VMX operation. >>> + * This means there will be no TDX guest private memory >>> + * and Secure-EPT pages. However the TDX module may have >>> + * been initialized and the memory page could be PAMT. >>> + */ >>> + if (sret == TDX_SEAMCALL_UD) >>> + return is_pamt_page(phys); >> >> Either this is comment is wonky or the module initialization is buggy. >> >> config_global_keyid() goes and does SEAMCALLs on all CPUs. There are >> zero checks or special handling in there for whether the CPU has done >> VMXON. So, by the time we've started initializing the TDX module >> (including the PAMT), all online CPUs must be able to do SEAMCALLs. Right? >> >> So how can we have a working PAMT here when this CPU can't do SEAMCALLs? > > The corner case is KVM can enable VMX on all cpus, initialize the TDX module, > and then disable VMX on all cpus. One example is KVM can be unloaded after it > initializes the TDX module. > > In this case CPU cannot do SEAMCALL but PAMTs are already working :-) > > However if SEAMCALL cannot be made (due to out of VMX), then the module can only > be initialized or the initialization hasn't been tried, so both > tdx_module_status and the tdx_tdmr_list are stable to access. None of this even matters. Let's remind ourselves how unbelievably unlikely this is: 1. You're on an affected system that has the erratum 2. The KVM module gets unloaded, runs vmxoff 3. A kernel bug using a very rare partial write corrupts the PAMT 4. A second bug reads the PAMT consuming poison, #MC is generated 5. Enter #MC handler, SEAMCALL fails 6. #MC handler just reports a plain hardware error The only thing even remotely wrong with this situation is that the report won't pin the #MC on TDX. Play stupid games (removing modules), win stupid prizes (worse error message). Can we dynamically mark a module as unsafe to remove? If so, I'd happily just say that we should make kvm_intel.ko unsafe to remove when TDX is supported and move on with life. tl;dr: I think even looking a #MC on the PAMT after the kvm module is removed is a fool's errand.