On 3 October 2023 01:53:11 BST, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >I think there is still use for synchronizing with the host's view of time, e.g. >to deal with lost time across host suspend+resume. > >So I don't think we can completely sever KVM's paravirt clocks from host time, >at least not without harming use cases that rely on the host's view to keep >accurate time. And honestly at that point, the right answer would be to stop >advertising paravirt clocks entirely. > >But I do think we can address the issues that Dongli and David are obversing >where guest time drifts even though the host kernel's base time hasn't changed. >If I've pieced everything together correctly, the drift can be eliminated simply >by using the paravirt clock algorithm when converting the delta from the raw TSC >to nanoseconds. > >This is *very* lightly tested, as in it compiles and doesn't explode, but that's >about all I've tested. Hm, I don't think I like this. You're making get_monotonic_raw() not *actually* return the monotonic_raw clock, but basically return the kvmclock instead? And why? So that when KVM attempts to synchronize the kvmclock to the monotonic_raw clock, it gets tricked into actually synchronizing the kvmclock to *itself*? If you get this right, don't we have a fairly complex piece of code that has precisely *no* effect? Can't we just *refrain* from synchronizing the kvmclock to *anything*, in the CONSTANT_TSC case? Why do we do that anyway? (Suspend/resume, live update and live migration are different. In *those* cases we may need to preserve both the guest TSC and kvmclock based on either the host TSC or CLOCK_TAI. But that's different.)