RE: [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] KVM: arm64: Add some HW_DBM related pgtable interfaces

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver Upton [mailto:oliver.upton@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 22 September 2023 18:49
> To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxx>
> Cc: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@xxxxxxxxxx>;
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> james.morse@xxxxxxx; suzuki.poulose@xxxxxxx; yuzenghui
> <yuzenghui@xxxxxxxxxx>; zhukeqian <zhukeqian1@xxxxxxxxxx>; Jonathan
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> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] KVM: arm64: Add some HW_DBM related
> pgtable interfaces
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 04:24:11PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 10:35:23AM +0100, Shameer Kolothum wrote:
> > > +static bool stage2_pte_writeable(kvm_pte_t pte)
> > > +{
> > > +	return pte & KVM_PTE_LEAF_ATTR_LO_S2_S2AP_W;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static void kvm_update_hw_dbm(const struct kvm_pgtable_visit_ctx
> *ctx,
> > > +			      kvm_pte_t new)
> > > +{
> > > +	kvm_pte_t old_pte, pte = ctx->old;
> > > +
> > > +	/* Only set DBM if page is writeable */
> > > +	if ((new & KVM_PTE_LEAF_ATTR_HI_S2_DBM)
> && !stage2_pte_writeable(pte))
> > > +		return;
> > > +
> > > +	/* Clear DBM walk is not shared, update */
> > > +	if (!kvm_pgtable_walk_shared(ctx)) {
> > > +		WRITE_ONCE(*ctx->ptep, new);
> > > +		return;
> > > +	}
> >
> > I was wondering if this interferes with the OS dirty tracking (not the
> > KVM one) but I think that's ok, at least at this point, since the PTE is
> > already writeable and a fault would have marked the underlying page as
> > dirty (user_mem_abort() -> kvm_set_pfn_dirty()).
> >
> > I'm not particularly fond of relying on this but I need to see how it
> > fits with the rest of the series. IIRC KVM doesn't go around and make
> > Stage 2 PTEs read-only but rather unmaps them when it changes the
> > permission of the corresponding Stage 1 VMM mapping.
> >
> > My personal preference would be to track dirty/clean properly as we do
> > for stage 1 (e.g. DBM means writeable PTE) but it has some downsides
> > like the try_to_unmap() code having to retrieve the dirty state via
> > notifiers.
> 
> KVM's usage of DBM is complicated by the fact that the dirty log
> interface w/ userspace is at PTE granularity. We only want the page
> table walker to relax PTEs, but take faults on hugepages so we can do
> page splitting.
> 
> > Anyway, assuming this works correctly, it means that live migration via
> > DBM is only tracked for PTEs already made dirty/writeable by some guest
> > write.
> 
> I'm hoping that we move away from this combined write-protection and
> DBM
> scheme and only use a single dirty tracking strategy at a time.

Yes. As mentioned in the cover letter this is a combined approach where we only set
DBM for near-by pages(64) on page fault when migration is started.

> 
> > > @@ -952,6 +990,11 @@ static int stage2_map_walker_try_leaf(const
> struct kvm_pgtable_visit_ctx *ctx,
> > >  	    stage2_pte_executable(new))
> > >  		mm_ops->icache_inval_pou(kvm_pte_follow(new, mm_ops),
> granule);
> > >
> > > +	/* Save the possible hardware dirty info */
> > > +	if ((ctx->level == KVM_PGTABLE_MAX_LEVELS - 1) &&
> > > +	    stage2_pte_writeable(ctx->old))
> > > +		mark_page_dirty(kvm_s2_mmu_to_kvm(pgt->mmu),
> ctx->addr >> PAGE_SHIFT);
> > > +
> > >  	stage2_make_pte(ctx, new);
> >
> > Isn't this racy and potentially losing the dirty state? Or is the 'new'
> > value guaranteed to have the S2AP[1] bit? For stage 1 we normally make
> > the page genuinely read-only (clearing DBM) in a cmpxchg loop to
> > preserve the dirty state (see ptep_set_wrprotect()).
> 
> stage2_try_break_pte() a few lines up does a cmpxchg() and full
> break-before-make, so at this point there shouldn't be a race with
> either software or hardware table walkers.
> 
> But I'm still confused by this one. KVM only goes down the map
> walker path (in the context of dirty tracking) if:
> 
>  - We took a translation fault
> 
>  - We took a write permission fault on a hugepage and need to split

Agree.

> In both cases the 'old' translation should have DBM cleared. Even if the
> PTE were dirty, this is wasted work since we need to do a final scan of
> the stage-2 when userspace collects the dirty log.
> 
> Am I missing something?

I think we can get rid of the above mark_page_dirty(). I will test it to confirm
we are not missing anything here.
 
Thanks,
Shameer



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