On Tue, Jul 25, 2023, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 02:40:03PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 01:18:54PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote: > > > > Check "this" CPU instead of the boot CPU when querying SVM support so that > > > > the per-CPU checks done during hardware enabling actually function as > > > > intended, i.e. will detect issues where SVM isn't support on all CPUs. > > > > > > Is that a realistic concern? > > > > It's not a concern in the sense that it should never happen, but I know of at > > least one example where VMX on Intel completely disappeared[1]. The "compatibility" > > checks are really more about the entire VMX/SVM feature set, the base VMX/SVM > > support check is just an easy and obvious precursor to the full compatibility > > checks. > > > > Of course, SVM doesn't currently have compatibility checks on the full SVM feature > > set, but that's more due to lack of a forcing function than a desire to _not_ have > > them. Intel CPUs have a pesky habit of bugs, ucode updates, and/or in-field errors > > resulting in VMX features randomly appearing or disappearing. E.g. there's an > > ongoing buzilla (sorry) issue[2] where a user is only able to load KVM *after* a > > suspend+resume cycle, because TSC scaling only shows up on one socket immediately > > after boot, which is then somehow resolved by suspend+resume. > > > > [1] 009bce1df0bb ("x86/split_lock: Don't write MSR_TEST_CTRL on CPUs that aren't whitelisted") > > [2] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217574 > > Is that using late loading of ucode? Not sure, though I don't think that is relevant for this particular bug. > Anything that changes *any* feature flag must be early ucode load, there is > no other possible way since einux does feature enumeration early, and > features are fixed thereafter. > > This is one of the many reasons late loading is a trainwreck. > > Doing suspend/resume probably re-loads the firmware Ya, it does. > and re-does the feature enumeration -- I didn't check. The reported ucode revision is the same before and after resume, and is consistent across all CPUs. KVM does the per-CPU feature enumeration (for sanity checks) everytime userspace attempts to load KVM (the module), so the timing of the ucode patch load _shouldn't_ matter. The user is running quite old ucode for their system, so the current theory is that old buggy ucode is to blame.