On 22.03.2010, at 12:14, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Avi Kivity <avi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 03/21/2010 11:54 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: >>> * Avi Kivity<avi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> On 03/21/2010 10:55 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: >>>>> Of course you could say the following: >>>>> >>>>> ' Thanks, I'll mark this for v2.6.36 integration. Note that we are not >>>>> able to add this to the v2.6.35 kernel queue anymore as the ongoing >>>>> usability work already takes up all of the project's maintainer and >>>>> testing bandwidth. If you want the feature to be merged sooner than that >>>>> then please help us cut down on the TODO and BUGS list that can be found >>>>> at XYZ. There's quite a few low hanging fruits there. ' >>>> That would be shooting at my own foot as well as the contributor's since I >>>> badly want that RCU stuff, and while a GUI would be nice, that itch isn't on >>>> my back. >>> I think this sums up the root cause of all the problems i see with KVM pretty >>> well. >> >> I think we agree at last. Neither I nor my employer are interested in >> running qemu as a desktop-on-desktop tool, therefore I don't invest any >> effort in that direction, or require it from volunteers. > > Obviously your employer at least in part defers to you when it comes to KVM > priorities. > > So, just to make this really clear, _you_ are not interested in running qemu > as a desktop-on-desktop tool, subsequently this kind of > disinterest-for-desktop-usability trickled through the whole KVM stack and > poisoned your attitude and your contributor's attitude. > > Too sad really and it's doubly sad that you dont feel anything wrong about > that. Please, don't jump to unjust conclusions. The whole point is that there's no money behind desktop-on-desktop virtualization. Thus nobody pays people to work on it. Thus nothing significant happens in that space. If there was someone standing up to create a really decent desktop qemu front-end I'm confident we'd even officially suggest using that. In fact, that whole discussion did come up in the weekly Qemu/KVM community call and everybody agreed heavily that we do need a desktop client. The problem is just that there is nobody standing up. And I hope you don't expect Avi to be the one creating a GUI. Alex -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
