Re: Latency issues inside KVM.

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On 5/1/2023 10:51 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:

For the NX hugepage mitation, I think it makes sense to restart the discussion
in the context of this thread: https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZBxf+ewCimtHY2XO@xxxxxxxxxx

OK, wasn't aware of that thread. Thanks for pointing out.
Just took a glance at it, I'll comment there.


TL;DR: I am open to providng an option to hard disable the mitigation,

Why hard disable? Isn't already "nx_huge_pages" parameter sufficient for this?
My aforementioned not-sent-out patch is to consider nx_huge_pages for creating the kthread or not, i.e. if nx_huge is enabled, start the kthread, if not, terminate the kthread; once re-enabled, spawn the kthread again...

but there
needs to be sufficient justification, e.g. that the above 100ms latency is a
problem for real world deployments.

Ah, I was objected by similar reason: the kthread does nothing if nx_huge_pages = false, it does no harm. Therefore I put the patch aside.

For the justification from real world, I guess Zhuangel570 can say more.

As more and more old CPUs retires, I think NX-HugePage code will become more
and more minority code path/situation, and be refactored out eventually one
day.

Heh, yeah, one day.  But "one day" is likely 10+ years away.  Intel discontinuing
a CPU has practically zero relevance to KVM removing support a CPU, e.g. KVM still
supports the original Core CPUs from ~2006, which were launched in 2006 and
discontinued in 2008.

OK, got it.
Why does KVM still FULLY support so old CPUs? Any real world users? What's the rational/necessity? even if it's already EOL by manufacture. My thought was that each new generation of CPU will linger in CSP's data center for 3~4 yrs.




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