Re: [PATCH] Enhance perf to collect KVM guest os statistics from host side

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On 03/16/2010 12:39 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
If we look at the use-case, it's going to be something like, a user is
creating virtual machines and wants to get performance information about
them.

Having to run a separate tool like perf is not going to be what they would
expect they had to do.  Instead, they would either use their existing GUI
tool (like virt-manager) or they would use their management interface
(either QMP or libvirt).

The complexity of interaction is due to the fact that perf shouldn't be a
stand alone tool.  It should be a library or something with a programmatic
interface that another tool can make use of.
But ... a GUI interface/integration is of course possible too, and it's being
worked on.

perf is mainly a kernel developer tool, and kernel developers generally dont
use GUIs to do their stuff: which is the (sole) reason why its first ~850
commits of tools/perf/ were done without a GUI. We go where our developers
are.

In any case it's not an excuse to have no proper command-line tooling. In fact
if you cannot get simpler, more atomic command-line tooling right then you'll
probably doubly suck at doing a GUI as well.

It's about who owns the user interface.

If qemu owns the user interface, than we can satisfy this in a very simple way by adding a perf monitor command. If we have to support third party tools, then it significantly complicates things.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

	Ingo

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