Re: [PATCH 00/14] Add iommufd physical device operations for replace and alloc hwpt

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On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:42:06AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2023 8:28 AM
> > 
> [...]
> > The implementation is complicated because we have to introduce some
> > per-iommu_group memory in iommufd and redo how we think about multi-
> > device
> > groups to be more explicit. This solves all the locking problems in the
> > prior attempts.
> > 
> 
> Now think about the pasid case.
> 
> pasid attach is managed as a device operation today:
> 	iommu_attach_device_pasid()
> 
> Following it naturally we'll have a pasid array per iommufd_device to
> track attached HWPT per pasid.
> 
> But internally there is only one pasid table per iommu group. i.e. same
> story as RID attach that once dev1 replaces hwpt on pasid1 then it takes
> effect on all other devices in the same group.

IMHO I can't belive that any actual systems that support PASID have a
RID aliasing problem too.

I think we should fix the iommu core to make PASID per-device and
require systems that have a RID aliasing problem to block PASID.

This is a bigger picture, if drivers have to optionally share their
PASID tables with other drivers then we can't have per-driver PASID
allocators at all either.

> Then confusion comes. If we must have explicit group object in iommufd
> to manage domain replacement per rid, then do we need the same
> explicit mechanism e.g. tracking pasid attached hwpt in iommufd_group
> instead of in iommufd_device? and have a iommu_attach_group_pasid() API.

If we make PASID per-group then yes

But no actual HW models per-group PASID to the VM so this is a
complete API disaster for vIOMMU. Better not to do it.

Jason



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