Re: [RFC] Improving userfaultfd scalability for live migration

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On Tue, Dec 06, 2022, James Houghton wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 8:06 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 05, 2022, James Houghton wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:20 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 05, 2022, David Matlack wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 7:30 AM Peter Xu <peterx@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > I'll have a closer read on the nested part, but note that this path already
> > > > > > has the mmap lock then it invalidates the goal if we want to avoid taking
> > > > > > it from the first place, or maybe we don't care?
> > >
> > > Not taking the mmap lock would be helpful, but we still have to take
> > > it in UFFDIO_CONTINUE, so it's ok if we have to still take it here.
> >
> > IIUC, Peter is suggesting that the kernel not even get to the point where UFFD
> > is involved.  The "fault" would get propagated to userspace by KVM, userspace
> > fixes the fault (gets the page from the source, does MADV_POPULATE_WRITE), and
> > resumes the vCPU.
> 
> If we haven't UFFDIO_CONTINUE'd some address range yet,
> MADV_POPULATE_WRITE for that range will drop into handle_userfault and
> go to sleep. Not good!

Ah, right, userspace would still need to register UFFD for the region to handle
non-KVM (or incompatible KVM) accesses and could loop back on itself.

> So, going with the no-slow-GUP approach, resolving faults is done like this:
> - If we haven't UFFDIO_CONTINUE'd yet, do that now and restart
> KVM_RUN. The PTEs will be none/blank right now. This is the common
> case.
> - If we have UFFDIO_CONTINUE'd already, if we were to do it again, we
> would get EEXIST. (In this case, we probably have some type of swap
> entry in the page tables.) We have to change the page tables to make
> fast GUP succeed now *without* using UFFDIO_CONTINUE now.
> MADV_POPULATE_WRITE seems to be the right tool for the job. This case
> happens if the kernel has swapped the memory out, is migrating it, has
> poisoned it, etc. If MADV_POPULATE_WRITE fails, we probably need to
> crash or inject a memory error.
> 
> So with this approach, we never need to take the mmap_lock for reading
> in hva_to_pfn, but we still need to take it in UFFDIO_CONTINUE.
> Without removing the mmap_lock from *both*, we don't gain much.
> 
> So if we disregard this tiny mmap_lock benefit, the other approach
> (the PF_NO_UFFD_WAIT approach) seems better.

Can you elaborate on what makes it better?  Or maybe generate a list of pros and
cons?  I can think of (dis)advantages for both approaches, but I haven't identified
anything that would be a blocking issue for either approach.  Doesn't mean there
isn't one or more blocking issues, just that I haven't thought of any :-)

> When KVM_RUN exits:
> - If we haven't UFFDIO_CONTINUE'd yet, do that now and restart KVM_RUN.
> - If we have, then something bad has happened. Slow GUP already ran
> and failed, so we need to treat this in the same way we treat a
> MADV_POPULATE_WRITE failure above: userspace might just want to crash
> (or inject a memory error or something).
> 
> - James



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