On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 04:38:11PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > We have locking issues in Linux SW connecting different SW drivers for > > things that are not a PF/VF relationship, but perhaps that can be > > solved. > > And I think the only reasonable answer is that the entire workflow > must be 100% managed from the controlling function, and the controlled > function is just around for a ride, with the controlling function > enabling/disabling it as needed without ever interacting with software > that directly deals with the controlled function. That is a big deviation from where VFIO is right now, the controlled function is the one with the VFIO driver, it should be the one that drives the migration uAPI components. Adding another uAPI that can manipulate the same VFIO device from some unrelated chardev feels wrong. There are certain things that need to be co-ordinated for eveything to work. Like you can't suspend the VFIO device unless you promise to also stop MMIO operations. Stuff like FLR interfers with the migration operation and has to be co-ordinated. Some migration operation failures, like load failure, have to be healed through FLR. It really does not want to be two different uAPIs even if that is convenient for the kernel. I'd much rather try to fix the problems PASID brings that try to make this work :\ Jason