Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] kvm: implement atomic memslot updates

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On 19.09.22 09:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 18.09.22 18:13, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:


Am 09/09/2022 um 16:30 schrieb Sean Christopherson:
On Fri, Sep 09, 2022, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:
KVM is currently capable of receiving a single memslot update through
the KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION ioctl.
The problem arises when we want to atomically perform multiple updates,
so that readers of memslot active list avoid seeing incomplete states.

For example, in RHBZ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1979276

I don't have access.  Can you provide a TL;DR?

You should be able to have access to it now.


we see how non atomic updates cause boot failure, because vcpus
will se a partial update (old memslot delete, new one not yet created)
and will crash.

Why not simply pause vCPUs in this scenario?  This is an awful lot of a complexity
to take on for something that appears to be solvable in userspace.


I think it is not that easy to solve in userspace: see
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20200312161217.3590-1-david@xxxxxxxxxx/


"Using pause_all_vcpus()/resume_all_vcpus() is not possible, as it will
temporarily drop the BQL - something most callers can't handle (esp.
when called from vcpu context e.g., in virtio code)."

Can you please comment on the bigger picture? The patch from me works
around *exactly that*, and for that reason, contains that comment.


FWIW, I hacked up my RFC to perform atomic updates on any memslot transactions (not just resizes) where ranges do add overlap with ranges to remove.

https://github.com/davidhildenbrand/qemu/tree/memslot


I only performed simple boot check under x86-64 (where I can see region resizes) and some make checks -- pretty sure it has some rough edges; but should indicate what's possible and what the possible price might be. [one could wire up a new KVM ioctl and call it conditionally on support if really required]



--
Thanks,

David / dhildenb




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