Re: [PATCH] vfio: Remove VFIO_TYPE1_NESTING_IOMMU

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Hi,

On 5/10/22 20:13, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 06:52:06PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2022-05-10 17:55, Jason Gunthorpe via iommu wrote:
>>> This control causes the ARM SMMU drivers to choose a stage 2
>>> implementation for the IO pagetable (vs the stage 1 usual default),
>>> however this choice has no visible impact to the VFIO user. Further qemu
>>> never implemented this and no other userspace user is known.
>>>
>>> The original description in commit f5c9ecebaf2a ("vfio/iommu_type1: add
>>> new VFIO_TYPE1_NESTING_IOMMU IOMMU type") suggested this was to "provide
>>> SMMU translation services to the guest operating system" however the rest
>>> of the API to set the guest table pointer for the stage 1 was never
>>> completed, or at least never upstreamed, rendering this part useless dead
>>> code.
>>>
>>> Since the current patches to enable nested translation, aka userspace page
>>> tables, rely on iommufd and will not use the enable_nesting()
>>> iommu_domain_op, remove this infrastructure. However, don't cut too deep
>>> into the SMMU drivers for now expecting the iommufd work to pick it up -
>>> we still need to create S2 IO page tables.
>>>
>>> Remove VFIO_TYPE1_NESTING_IOMMU and everything under it including the
>>> enable_nesting iommu_domain_op.
>>>
>>> Just in-case there is some userspace using this continue to treat
>>> requesting it as a NOP, but do not advertise support any more.
>> I assume the nested translation/guest SVA patches that Eric and Vivek were
>> working on pre-IOMMUFD made use of this, and given that they got quite far
>> along, I wouldn't be too surprised if some eager cloud vendors might have
>> even deployed something based on the patches off the list. 

thank you Robin for the heads up.
> With upstream there is no way to make use of this flag, if someone is
> using it they have other out of tree kernel, vfio, kvm and qemu
> patches to make it all work.
>
> You can see how much is still needed in Eric's tree:
>
> https://github.com/eauger/linux/commits/v5.15-rc7-nested-v16
>
>> I can't help feeling a little wary about removing this until IOMMUFD
>> can actually offer a functional replacement - is it in the way of
>> anything upcoming?
> From an upstream perspective if someone has a patched kernel to
> complete the feature, then they can patch this part in as well, we
> should not carry dead code like this in the kernel and in the uapi.

On the other end the code is in the kernel for 8 years now, I think we
could wait for some additional weeks/months until the iommufd nested
integration arises and gets tested.

Thanks

Eric
>
> It is not directly in the way, but this needs to get done at some
> point, I'd rather just get it out of the way.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>




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